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| bob-bob-bob | Nov 5 2009, 07:02 PM Post #1 |
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33678801/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/?GT1=43001 Army says 12 dead, 31 injured at Fort Hood Gunman killed, two suspects — all soldiers — in custody in Texas incident Breaking News : shooter ID is : MAJOR Malik Nadal HASAN , he has been shot and killed by a security guard who was also shot and killed during the fight . Shootings at Fort Hood NBC News Get breaking news updates on Twitter Follow @msnbc_breaking on Twitter. Click here. Obama: 'Horrific outburst' of violence Nov. 5: President Barack Obama talks about the shootings in Fort Hood, Texas expressing his shock that “soldiers came under fire at an army base on American soil.” The president asked all Americans to keep the victims in their prayers. BREAKING NEWS NBC News and msnbc.com updated 7 minutes ago A U.S. soldier opened fire Thursday at Fort Hood, Texas, killing at least 11 people and wounding 31 others, military officials said. The gunman was shot to death, and two others were in custody. Lt. Gen. Robert W. Cone, commanding general of the Army’s III Corps, who confirmed the shootings, said the gunman used two handguns. NBC News’ Pete Williams reported that a U.S. official identified the gunman as Maj. Malik Nadal Hasan, who was 39 or 40. A senior Obama administration official told NBC News that the shootings could have been a criminal matter rather than a terrorism-related attack and that there was no intelligence to suggest a plot against Fort Hood. Military and local hospital official said the victims were a mixture of men and women, military and civilian. At least one of those killed was a civilian police officer, Cone said. At least four local SWAT officers were among those wounded, NBC affiliate KCEN-TV of Waco reported. Fort Hood, one of the largest military complexes in the world, was on lockdown, as were schools in the area. Dozens of agents of the FBI and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives responded to the post, federal officials said. Speaking in Washington, President Barack Obama called the shootings a “horrific incident.” “It’s difficult enough when we lose these great Americans in battles overseas,” Obama said at the Interior Department. “It’s horrifying that they should come under fire at an Army base on American soil.” Shootings in deployment processing center Emergency Services officials at Fort Hood said the incident began about 1:30 p.m. CT (2:30 ET) when the gunman opened fire in the Soldiers Readiness Processing Center on the west side of the base. A spokesman for the base, Sgt. Major Jamie Posten, said the processing center was where soldiers “cycle through as they prepare to deploy.” Retired Army Col. Greg Schannep, an aide to Rep. John Carter, R-Texas, who was on the post to attend a graduation service, told the base newspaper, The Fort Hood Sentinel, that he heard “three or four volleys of shots, with eight to 12 shots in each volley.” “Initially, I thought it was a training exercise,” he said. But then, “a soldier came running past me and said, ‘Sir, there is someone shooting.’ “As he ran past me, I saw blood on his back,” Schannep told the base paper. “I don’t think he even knew he had been shot.” Fort Hood is adjacent to Killeen, about 60 miles northeast of Austin. The sprawling complex is home to at least 4,929 active-duty officers and 45,414 enlisted. Civilian employees total nearly 9,000. A spokesman for the Army, Lt. Col. Lee M. Packnett, said he was unaware whether security measures were put in place at other military bases. A spokesman at Fort Lewis, Wash., said the incident was being treated as isolated. Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchinson, R-Texas, said in a statement: “I am shocked and saddened by today’s outburst of violence at Fort Hood that has cost seven of our brave service members their lives and has gravely injured others. My heart goes out to their loved ones.” Texas Gov. Rick Perry’s campaign spokesperson said the governor was in Denton, scheduled to attend a campaign event, when word of the shooting occurred. There was no word on whether he had left Denton or whether he was headed to Fort Hood. Click for related content Facts about Fort Hood Help us report this story with video, photos, personal reports Milly Land, who works at the base fitness center, said she was headed for the graduation ceremony at 2 p.m. at the Howze Theater when the campus was locked down. She went back to the fitness center. She said she spoke by phone with friends at the soldier processing center, who said a gunman walked in about 1:30, walked to the medical area of the processing center, and started shooting. A second gunman was shooting at the theater next door, she said. Fort Hood has seen other violence in recent years. In September 2008, a 21-year-old 1st Cavalry Division soldier shot his lieutenant to death and then killed himself. Spc. Jody Michael Wirawan of Eagle River, Alaska, shot himself to death after shooting 1st Lt. Robert Bartlett Fletcher, 24, of Jensen Beach, Fla. to death. Edited by bob-bob-bob, Nov 5 2009, 07:32 PM.
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| gibby62 | Nov 6 2009, 08:01 AM Post #2 |
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13 dead now (one of the injured died) This will have long term consequences. There have been many Muslims that have served beside Christian soldiers and have proven themselves trustworthy, capable and brave. Can you imagine how Muslims are going to be looked at by their fellow soldiers now?? What I don't understand is why MPs did not respond. Why so much confusion about what is being reported? I think there is much more to this story than we'll ever know. Something doesn't feel right about it. Ironically, the alleged shooter was transferred into the unit in July and supposedly did not want to be deployed. mms://survive2thrive.gsradio.net/survive2thrive/110509.mp3 |
| Put on the full armor of God so that you can take your stand against the devil's schemes. For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. Eph 6:11-12 | |
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| gibby62 | Nov 6 2009, 01:08 PM Post #3 |
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Guess I'm not alone.... http://www.infowars.com/everything-about-nidal-malik-hasan-screams-patsy/ Everything About Nidal Malik Hasan Screams “Patsy” Paul Joseph Watson Prison Planet.com Friday, November 6, 2009 The Empire strikes back – right when when public support for the occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan sinks to all time lows, an anti-war Islamic extremist with links to suicide bombers goes on a shooting rampage at a U.S. army base, reinvigorating support for the war on terror and demonizing opposition to it as anti-American extremism. The scam would be believable if it wasn’t so perfectly staged. Without getting into convoluted conspiracy theories about mind control and whatever else, not that they aren’t without merit, the facts we already know about Hasan and his behavior prior to the deadly shootings just screams out “patsy” and “set-up” and almost exactly mirrors other terror scams the Empire has run in the past. Just like the would-be liquid bombers that were supposedly planning on bringing down multiple airliners in August 2006, who were caught on CCTV buying bulk supplies of cake in the very hours before the plot, Hasan’s pre-shooting behavior contradicts completely the idea that he was preparing for a deadly rampage. Shortly before the massacre, Hasan was caught on camera shopping at the convenience store located on the army base – laughing and joking. Is this the behavior of a man psychologically readying himself for the high-intensity horror of gunning down dozens of his colleagues, or someone unaware of what was to follow? We learn that Hasan “Showed no signs of worry or stress when he stopped at 7-Eleven for his daily breakfast of hash browns, said Jeannie Strickland, the store’s manager.” ” He came in (Thursday) morning just like normal,” she said, “nothing weird, nothing out of the ordinary.” CNN feverishly seized upon the CCTV footage and began broadcasting it relentlessly because Hasan is seen wearing Arab garb and Muslim headdress, fitting the carefully pre-arranged stereotype perfectly. The Smiling Assassin? Hasan’s pre-rampage behavior is completely at odds with the idea of him preparing to massacre more than a dozen of his colleagues. Just like the 7/7 bombing patsies who were filmed laughing and joking, getting into arguments and generally doing everything a terrorist would want to avoid, Hasan’s pre-attack behavior should set alarm bells ringing. Just like the 7/7 bombing patsies and the liquid bombing patsies, the description of Hasan by those reinforcing the official characterization of him as a vengeful jihadist is completely at odds with how his own family members described him. Hasan’s cousin laughed when an interviewer asked him if the shooter was “violent.” A d v e r t i s e m e n t “He was just normal, loved sports, never got into trouble.” He said his family was “shocked and baffled” by the incident. “His parents didn’t want him to go into the military,” Mr. Hasan said. “He said, ‘No, I was born and raised here, I’m going to do my duty to the country.’ ” The backdrop behind Hasan’s alleged motive for the rampage also represents an inch-perfect staging for subsequent characterization of those opposed to the war on terror as lunatics, crackpots and extremists. In the hours after the event, we were told that Hasan was upset about being deployed to Iraq at the end of the month. This then mutated into the notion that Hasan was “anti-war” and later we were informed that he was “facing an FBI investigation for expressing sympathy with suicide bombers.” The fact that this was known by authorities six months ago and still Hasan was not only allowed to remain at the Army base, but also invited to participate in Homeland Security exercises only raises more red flags. Then the lurid details really began to pour in to reinforce the Islamic terrorist stereotype – Hasan screamed “Allah Akbar!” before opening fire, he made “outlandish comments concerning U.S. foreign policy.” As Michael Yaki highlights, the media characterization of Hasan as a Muslim terrorist was assumed by default, and almost from the first moment it seemed as though news anchors were reading from a script prepared well in advance. “Once the name of the protagonist was established, the blogs lit up and the talking heads immediately turned to the “terrorist” word. Anderson Cooper repeatedly referred to Hasan as an “American Muslim.” I somehow don’t see Cooper referring to the Columbine killers, Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris as “American Protestants.” Yet, front and center, the media began their speculation on whether Hasan was a “recent convert” to Islam, what websites he visited, and whether “outside influences” — code words for Imams and terrorist recruiters — had compelled him to walk onto the base and begin his shooting rampage. Indeed, the media was playing {and replaying} up the fact that he was shown wearing “traditional” Arab garb earlier in the day as he bought some coffee, although other footage from the day before showed him wearing hospital scrubs — which thus far has never made the endless loop on CNN.” Pointing out the fact that every other killer in U.S. history was described as a “mass murderer” and not a terrorist, Yaki slams the media’s contrived and “implied presumption (that) Hasan appears to be terrorist unless proven otherwise.” Why were initial reports of three shooters reversed? Why were two alleged shooters taken into custody but quickly released? Was Hasan framed? When the dust settles on yesterday’s tragic events at Fort Hood it may indeed turn out to be the case that Nidal Malik Hasan was a lone nut seeking to exact revenge for what he saw as perpetual war crimes being carried out against the people of Iraq and Afghanistan. If that is the case, it doesn’t make such crimes acceptable nor does it mean all people who oppose the war on terror are likely to go on a shooting rampage. However, from all the evidence that has emerged thus far, and in comparing it with other terror scams in the past where patsies have been deliberately groomed and set up to be the fall guys for false flag attacks, everything we know about yesterday’s events suggests that there is infinitely more to the story of Nidal Malik Hasan than meets the eye. |
| Put on the full armor of God so that you can take your stand against the devil's schemes. For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. Eph 6:11-12 | |
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| gibby62 | Nov 6 2009, 01:52 PM Post #4 |
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Nothing like the smell of Martial Law in the morning. |
| Put on the full armor of God so that you can take your stand against the devil's schemes. For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. Eph 6:11-12 | |
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| gibby62 | Nov 6 2009, 03:16 PM Post #5 |
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More fuel for the fire.... http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,572605,00.html Police Launch Manhunt for Suspect in Orlando Office Shooting That Reportedly Killed 2 Friday, November 06, 2009 Orlando Police Department Jason Rodriguez DEVELOPING: Florida authorities have launched a manhunt for a gunman believed to have opened fire Friday in the offices of an engineering firm where he was let go more than two years ago. Authorities have identified the alleged gunman as Jason Rodriguez, 40, a former employee at the office building. He is believed to be wearing a light blue polo shirt and jeans. Rodriguez remains at large. He is considered armed and dangerous. Police say he might be driving a 2002 silver Nissan SUV with Florida license plates D11 9UX. "I would consider him armed and dangerous," Orlando police spokeswoman Barbara Jones said. She said at least five people were taken to a hospital and another had chest pains but did not go to the hospital. Orlando Regional Medical Center said four people were being treated in the emergency department. MyFoxOrlando has reported two dead and four wounded. Orlando Fire Department District Chief Michael Droege said an unknown number of people were still in the building and could be injured. He said the special tactics police team was still trying to pull people out. "The building is not secure now," Droege said. "It's still unfolding." She confirmed witnesses told police the shooting started at Reynolds Smith & Hill, a transportation engineering consulting firm in the building. Police said earlier that there were at least six victims, but would not specify how many were killed or wounded. The FBI has joined police in the manhunt. They are in the process of thoroughly searching the perimeter of the office building. They could not confirm that the building had been completely searched. Gerry Gilgo, who works on the floor where the shooting occurred, told The Associated Press she was meeting a co-worker at the elevators for lunch. "She yelled, 'There are gunshots! There are gunshots! Get back in your office,"' Gilgo said. Will Halpern, an attorney works on the building's 17th floor, was among the last group to be evacuated. He said the lobby was filled with about 20 officers in SWAT gear, carrying assault weapons, ready to search. Interstate 4 was closed in both directions through downtown and nearby schools were locked down. Rows of ambulances lined up outside the building as police snipers took up positions around the building and officers on foot and horseback searched the area. Police said they do not know the motive behind the shootings. Police asked community members to keep their eyes open for the suspect. |
| Put on the full armor of God so that you can take your stand against the devil's schemes. For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. Eph 6:11-12 | |
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| locboxx | Nov 6 2009, 04:55 PM Post #6 |
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my friend lives there, he got locked down while everything was happening. |
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| hope | Nov 21 2009, 10:52 PM Post #7 |
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Received this: http://www.gwumc.edu/hspi/old/PTTF_ProceedingsReport_05.19.09.pdf maybe why Obama wants to keep this whole thing quiet... check out page 29 with names of participants in administration's security priorites and you find Nidal Hassan's name on Obama's list of attendees. |
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| Rahab | Nov 22 2009, 12:44 AM Post #8 |
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Yes he was wearing traditional Arab garb for a FUNERAL. There was nothing 'normal' in the way he was dressed that day. He would normally be dressed in fatigues or scrubs. He was a military doctor. Why would it be unusual for him to be acting normal or happy? He had intended to die a martyr's death that day, which he believe to be a great honor. American's do not understand the mindset of those who are very devout practitioners of Islam. They believe it is a great honor to die for the cause of Allah and the more infidels they kill the more they will be held in high esteem. |
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