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| heluvsme | Sep 26 2009, 12:49 AM Post #21 |
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Yes, thanks Michael. I do have a close friend praying about it who knows nothing. I'm waiting on her answer. |
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| sweetcapner | Sep 26 2009, 01:23 AM Post #22 |
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Your welcome Heluvsme, I didnt realize that about the verse i put on that as I had it in my heart. Actually, I am still waiting on the Lord inside of my heart and I am just watching for Him and just want to be ready. like proverbs 8:34 saying bless to the man who is listen and watching for him at the door and waiting at the door. I dont know why because I been watching up the sky more than before and been asking God when? As i know something is really going happen bad. sometimes i felt i am foolish to watch etc. but I stand on my ground and waiting for Him. right now it is hard to explain how i feel lately. As I have been watching at the sky more than before because i knew that jesus Christ is coming back. Sc SC |
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| hope | Sep 26 2009, 09:55 AM Post #23 |
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heluvsme: Early this morning I was half asleep and half awake when I heard these words~ "11 days....Sudden destruction is coming" Then I fell back to sleep and dreamed that I had a calendar and I was trying to count the 11 days to determine when the sudden destruction would come. My brother and sister-in-law were visiting me and distracting me and I couldn't seem to count no matter how many times I tried. So when I woke up I prayed and asked God to confirm if this was from Him. I got up and grabbed my husband's bible (which oddly enough he had accidentally dropped on the floor on his way out to get ready for work). I opened it to Nehemiah 8. This chapter speaks of the children of Israel gathering to hear Ezra read the book of the law, and they discovered the Feast of Tabernacles and celebrated it. So I looked up the Feast of Tabernacles and it begins at sunset on Oct 2nd. Which is 11 days from now. The words came on 9/22 and 11 days hasn't arrived yet. How can someone call you a false prophet yet? We will have to wait and see if anything happens. I too wake up and hear things. I have always believed them to be from the Lord. I too have not seen some of these things happen that I've heard but I understand what you are going through. Back in July 2005 I clearly heard: "Severe drought. Stock up now. Winter wheat" I had no idea about a winter wheat and what it was. There has yet to be a drought severe enough. Doesn't mean it still might not be on the horizon but I took "stock up now" as meaning imminent. I guess I was wrong. I told other people and I'm sure they feel I was crazy. Edited by hope, Sep 26 2009, 09:59 AM.
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Blessed is he who has regard for the poor; the Lord delivers him in time of trouble; the Lord will protect him and preserve his life; he will bless him in the land and not surrender him to the desire of his foes. The Lord will sustain him on his sickbed and restore him from his bed of illness. Ps. 41:1-3 ... | |
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| heluvsme | Sep 26 2009, 11:10 AM Post #24 |
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Sweetcapner, I know what you mean...I've never believed that God would take us out of here before the time of trouble...but last night I was at a church function and I heard a train and thought it was Gabriel blowing that trumpet lol I'm watching and waiting... Hope, thank you for sharing your experience. This morning I was led to Isaiah 17~which speaks of the destruction of Damascus. Isaiah 17 A Message about Damascus and Israel 1 This message came to me concerning Damascus: “Look, the city of Damascus will disappear! It will become a heap of ruins. 2 The towns of Aroer will be deserted. Flocks will graze in the streets and lie down undisturbed, h no one to chase them away. 3 The fortified towns of Israel[a] will also be destroyed, and the royal power of Damascus will end. All that remains of Syria will share the fate of Israel’s departed glory,” declares the Lord of Heaven’s Armies. 4 “In that day Israel’s[c] glory will grow dim; its robust body will waste away. 5 The whole land will look like a grainfield after the harvesters have gathered the grain. It will be desolate, like the fields in the valley of Rephaim after the harvest. 6 Only a few of its people will be left, like stray olives left on a tree after the harvest. Only two or three remain in the highest branches, four or five scattered here and there on the limbs,” declares the Lord, the God of Israel. 7 Then at last the people will look to their Creator and turn their eyes to the Holy One of Israel. 8 They will no longer look to their idols for help or worship what their own hands have made. They will never again bow down to their Asherah poles or worship at the pagan shrines they have built. 9 Their largest cities will be like a deserted forest, like the land the Hivites and Amorites abandoned[d] when the Israelites came here so long ago. It will be utterly desolate. 10 Why? Because you have turned from the God who can save you. You have forgotten the Rock who can hide you. So you may plant the finest grapevines and import the most expensive seedlings. 11 They may sprout on the day you set them out; yes, they may blossom on the very morning you plant them, but you will never pick any grapes from them. Your only harvest will be a load of grief and unrelieved pain. 12 Listen! The armies of many nations roar like the roaring of the sea. Hear the thunder of the mighty forces as they rush forward like thundering waves. 13 But though they thunder like breakers on a beach, God will silence them, and they will run away. They will flee like chaff scattered by the wind, like a tumbleweed whirling before a storm. 14 In the evening Israel waits in terror, but by dawn its enemies are dead. This is the just reward of those who plunder us, a fitting end for those who destroy us. |
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| sweetcapner | Sep 26 2009, 11:38 PM Post #25 |
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Heluvmsa, to be honest, I never heard the trumpet before as I am deaf and i am curious what sound look like sometimes i hear yelling or driving by like really loud i can hear but little sound i cant hear. Funny thing in my dream about rapture in few years, I heard the trumpet but i cant remember the sound only i saw brightest shine, my daughters and i looked up and saw the brightness right through the building, then Jesus said it is time, like his hands were open for us and all of suddently we are caught up and transformed into different bodies. all i remember that but sound i cant remember the sound of trumpet. So that s why i am keeping watching the sky everyday. I am very very curious about the trumpet when Gabriel will blow the trumpet. It will be my first time to hear when the trumpet blows and will be my first time to hear Jesus' voice. What rejoice will be. Sc |
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| peggyelaine | Jan 28 2010, 09:09 AM Post #26 |
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I have made some decisions based on fear concerning prophecies. I did see Wilkersons prophecy and he gave no time table just SOON. My 13 year old son had a dream which unnerved me-it was just a condition of people but no time table. I DO believe in prophecy but have lost some faith. |
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| Wil | Jan 29 2010, 01:45 AM Post #27 |
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Dated prophecies can have that effect, however the large majority (of warning ones) are not dated and can be pretty much confirmed by looking at world conditions I think. Also most important is to take things to the Lord for ourselves before acting on anything we hear, as the scripture says He will guide our steps, we need to press in until we hear. |
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| deetie | Jan 29 2010, 11:33 AM Post #28 |
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Peggyelaine: While prophecy is a good thing, you really have to be careful of what you listen to and what you take in as from the Lord. Pray over things the ones that speak to you. Ask the Lord to confirm them. And ignore the ones with date predictions in them. I have found that when I hear a prophecy that is from the Lord, that I've already been hearing that message in my heart from the spirit. There's a lot of people who are sincere in believing that they are prophecying but I am not convinced that much of it is from the Lord. The Lord always confirms 2 or 3 times what he is saying, but there is much out there that appears to be prophecy and is not. Don't listen to dates. It's bound to discourage you. Your best bet is to listen to the Lord. The Holy Spirit is able to teach you everything you need to know concerning what is coming. I think that many of us here have a very clear picture in our spirit of what is coming. The details are in God's hands. I personally don't care if it shakes out as a nuclear bomb in some city, an earthquake in another, a tsunami, or whatever. What difference will it make? We will still have to trust the Lord to get through. God will provide. He is very good at it. |
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| Favor | Jan 29 2010, 11:26 PM Post #29 |
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Yes heluvsme ... He does love you very much. You are not a false prophet. Greater is He that is in you than he that is in the world. Prophecies are sometimes veiled so that we will dig for the deeper truth. Daniel's words were sealed until knowledge would be increased. I will be careful to say I think (and am at liberty to think) that Revelation is the unsealing of Daniel. Some things were written in Daniel for the latter days. There was no urgency in his time to peer into those things written. In Revelation John feels an urgency. Many Rabbis feel Revelation is a stolen book because of its wealth of images from Zechariah, Daniel, Ezekiel, some of Hosea, and Isaiah. People are now discovering the rich heritage of the Jews who have Torah, the feasts, and Sabbath that are illustrations of things to come. But anyway, I got this off of www.av1611.org/othpubls/eleven.html: Is there a specific meaning connected with the number eleven found in the Word of God? There are two clear meanings associated with the number eleven. One meaning of the number "eleven" is urgent, the last chance, or something is about to happen. This meaning is expressed in the "eleventh hour". The Lord Jesus Christ speaks of the number "eleven" only twice, both times in Matthew 20, in the phrase "the eleventh hour". The "eleventh hour" is urgency, the last chance before something happens. Matthew 20 20:1 For the kingdom of heaven is like unto a man that is an householder, which went out early in the morning to hire labourers into his vineyard. 2 And when he had agreed with the labourers for a penny a day, he sent them into his vineyard. 3 And he went out about the third hour, and saw others standing idle in the marketplace, 4 And said unto them; Go ye also into the vineyard, and whatsoever is right I will give you. And they went their way. 5 Again he went out about the sixth and ninth hour, and did likewise. 4 And said unto them; Go ye also into the vineyard, and whatsoever is right I will give you. And they went their way. 5 Again he went out about the sixth and ninth hour, and did likewise. 6 And about the eleventh hour he went out, and found others standing idle, and saith unto them, Why stand ye here all the day idle? 7 They say unto him, Because no man hath hired us. He saith unto them, Go ye also into the vineyard; and whatsoever is right, that shall ye receive. 8 So when even was come, the lord of the vineyard saith unto his steward, Call the labourers, and give them their hire, beginning from the last unto the first. 9 And when they came that were hired about the eleventh hour, they received every man a penny. 10 But when the first came, they supposed that they should have received more; and they likewise received every man a penny. 11 And when they had received it, they murmured against the goodman of the house, 12 Saying, These last have wrought but one hour, and thou hast made them equal unto us, which have borne the burden and heat of the day. 13 But he answered one of them, and said, Friend, I do thee no wrong: didst not thou agree with me for a penny? In Biblical times, a day was measured in 12 hour increments, from sunrise to sunset, and the twelfth hour was darkness and night. So the phrase the eleventh hour referred to the very last hour, the hour just before sunset. In Matthew 20, the Lord Jesus coined the famous phrase "the eleventh hour". The "eleventh hour" has echoed through the years as a warning or urgency: "time is running out" – "the last possible moment." A few secular definitions of the "eleventh hour": Idioms & Axiums currently used in America, says of the "eleventh hour": "To come at "the eleventh hour" implies that it comes in the last hour before the deadline." (Idioms & Axiums currently used in America, www.pride-unlimited.com/probono/idioms1.html) Idiom Archive, writes: "at the eleventh hour(adv) :at the latest or last possible time. The latest possible moment. Time just before it is too late" (Idiom Archive, www.eltc.com/idioms.html) InfoPlease, has under "the eleventh hour": "The eleventh hour: the last possible moment for doing something: to change plans at the eleventh hour." (www.infoplease.com) The number eleven is clearly connected with "the last chance". Is the Lord sending America and the world an urgent "eleventh hour" warning? Are we standing at the "eleventh hour" before the "deadline"? Are we watching the "eleventh hour" of a major event in human history? Maybe. . . The Bible plainly paints another portrait of the number eleven. One that unmistakably weaves throughout the Word of God. And one that is much clearer. . . and much, much more alarming. The Bible clearly associates the number eleven with "judgement". THE FIRST JUDGEMENT AFTER THE FALL. . . The first "judgement" executed upon mankind after the fall of man, resulted from Cain killing his brother Abel. The judgement was executed in Genesis chapter four verse "eleven". Genesis 4:11 And now art thou cursed from the earth, which hath opened her mouth to receive thy brother's blood from thy hand; Somebody's probably thinking. . . Whoa! Just a minute. . . The chapter and verse numbers aren't "inspired" — there are no chapter and verse numbers in the "original Hebrew" manuscripts! So that eliminates any chapter/verse number "meanings". If the chapters and numbers for the verses aren't "inspired" — are the "vowels" and "spaces"? There are no vowels, spaces or lower case letters in the "original Hebrew" text. (also the Hebrew text read left to right). If only the "original Hebrew" manuscript is inspired, etc. — let's remove the spaces, vowels and lower case letters from the Old Testament! By doing so, can you read the following chapter? SLMFDVDTHLRDSMYSHPHRDSHLLNTWNTHMK THMTLDWNNGRNPSTRSHLDTHMBSDTHSTLLW TRSHRSTRTHMYSLHLDTHMNTHPTHSFRGHTS NSSFRHSNMSSKYTHGHWLKTHRGHTHVLLYFT HSHDWFDTHWLLFRNVLFRTHRTWTHMTHYRDN DTHYSTFFTHYCMFRTMTHPRPRSTTBLBFRMN THPRSNCFMNNMSTHNNTSTMYHDWTHLMYCPR NNTHVRSRLYGDNSSNDMRCYSHLLFLLWMLLT HDYSFMYLFNDWLLDWLLNTHHSFTHLRDFRVR Have we settled that? Are we ready to proceed? Thank you. . . ;-) THE SECOND JUDGEMENT WAS NOAH’S FLOOD. . . The second judgment was the flood of Noah’s day. The "judgement" was executed in Genesis chapter seven verse "eleven". Genesis 7:11 In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened. THE THIRD JUDGEMENT FELL UPON CANAAN. . . Noah had three sons; Shem, Ham and Japheth. Because that Ham looked upon the "nakedness of his father" God executed judgement against Ham’s son Canaan. Note: God couldn’t curse Ham because God had already blessed Ham in Genesis 9:1, so the curse fell to Canaan. Genesis 9:25, describes the judgement of Canaan: Genesis 9:25 And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren. Ever wondered why God "judged" Ham's son Canaan? Ham had at least four sons; Cush, Mizraim, Phut, and Canaan (Genesis 10:6). Why the curse on Canaan? Normally, the curse or blessing is bestowed upon the first-born. Why the "cursed be Canaan"? Was it because Canaan had "eleven" sons? The "curse of Canaan" was executed upon the "eleven" sons of Canaan. Genesis 10:15-18 15 And Canaan begat Sidon (1) his firstborn, and Heth, (2) 16 And the Jebusite, (3) and the Amorite, (4) and the Girgasite, (5) 17 And the Hivite, (6) and the Arkite, (7) and the Sinite, (8) 18 And the Arvadite, (9) and the Zemarite, (10) and the Hamathite: (11) and afterward were the families of the Canaanites spread abroad. THE JUDGEMENT AT THE TOWER OF BABEL. . . The Bible describes the infamous "Tower of Babel". The Tower of Babel was Nimrod’s attempt to bring in history’s heralded "one-world-order". And God executed judgement on Nimrod and company by confounding their language, so they couldn’t understand each other: The judgement on Nimrod occurred in Genesis chapter "eleven" verse seven. Genesis 11:7 Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech. THE JUDGEMENT OF THE MEN OF SODOM. . . Because of the wickedness of Sodom and Gomorrah, God sent two angels to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah. As the two angels came to Lot’s house, the men of Sodom surrounded Lot’s house, calling for Lot to let them have the men (the angels) for sexual perversion. And the two angels executed "judgement" on the men of Sodom by smiting them with blindness. The judgement was executed in Genesis chapter 19 verse "eleven": Genesis 19:11 And they smote the men that were at the door of the house with blindness, both small and great: so that they wearied themselves to find the door. THE JUDGEMENT OF EGYPT. . . In B.C. 1700, the children of Israel were slaves to Egypt. And God called a man named Moses to deliver Israel to the "promised land". But Pharaoh, king of Egypt refused to let Israel go. Because Pharaoh, king of Egypt refused to release the children of Israel, the Lord executed "eleven" judgements against Egypt: The plague of Blood. (Exodus 7:19-21) The plague of Frogs. (Exodus 8:1-7) The plague of Lice. (Exodus 8:16-17) The plague of Flies. (Exodus 8:21-24) The plague of Murrain. (Exodus 9:1-7) The plague of Boils. (Exodus 9:8-11) The plague of Hail. (Exodus 9:22-25) The plague of Locusts. (Exodus 10:12-15) The plague of Darkness(Exodus 10:21-23) The death of the First-Born. (Exodus 12:29-30) The drowning at the red Sea. (Exodus 14:24-28) THE JUDGEMENT OF ISRAEL. . . After the Lord God delivered Israel from the bondage of Egypt, Israel was to return to the land promised to Abraham in Genesis 17:8. As the children of Israel came close to the promised land, in Numbers 13, they stopped at Kadeshbarnea. There, they sent out twelve men, one from each tribe, to search out the promised land. Even though, the Lord God had already promised the land to Israel, when the spies returned — "eleven" elected not to go in and possess the "promised land". In Numbers 13:30, it was only, Caleb that said, ". . .Let us go up at once, and possess it;. . ." The other "eleven", the Bible says in Numbers 13:32, brought back an "evil report". Numbers 13:32 And they [the eleven] brought up an evil report of the land which they had searched unto the children of Israel, saying, The land, through which we have gone to search it, is a land that eateth up the inhabitants thereof; and all the people that we saw in it are men of a great stature. Because of the evil report of "eleven", Israel refused to go into the promised land. And "judgement" was executed on Israel as they wandered in the wilderness for forty years. Because of "eleven" – judgement was executed upon Israel. But there’s more. . . In Deuteronomy 1:2, the Bible specifically tells us when Israel stopped in Kadeshbarnea, in Numbers 13, where the Lord executed the judgement upon Israel – it was an "eleven" days journey from Horeb! Deuteronomy 1:1-2 1 These be the words which Moses spake unto all Israel on this side Jordan in the wilderness, in the plain over against the Red sea, between Paran, and Tophel, and Laban, and Hazeroth, and Dizahab. 2 (There are eleven days' journey from Horeb by the way of mount Seir unto Kadeshbarnea.) If Israel would have only kept going! If Israel would have traveled twelve days – only one more day, they would have been in the God ordained, promised land. But because they stopped at "eleven" – judgement was executed upon Israel. Because of an "eleven" days journey. . . Because of "eleven" men’s evil report. . . Judgement was executed upon Israel – for forty, long, wandering, suffering years! Is there any doubt "eleven" is God’s number for judgement? But there’s much more evidence. . . THE JUDGEMENT OF SAMSON. . . Judgement was executed upon Samson because of "eleven" hundred pieces of silver. The Philistines paid Delilah "eleven" hundred pieces of silver to sell Samson out. Judges 16:5 And the lords of the Philistines came up unto her [Delilah], and said unto her, Entice him, and see wherein his great strength lieth, and by what means we may prevail against him, that we may bind him to afflict him: and we will give thee every one of us eleven hundred pieces of silver. THE JUDGEMENT OF SOLOMON. . . One of the keys for unlocking any specific meaning to certain numbers in the Bible is match the book number, chapter and verse with the selected number. Dr. Peter Ruckman explains this technique in his book, Bible Numerics: "As a general practice in trying to find a number, the thing you do is find the number of that book – like if you are looking for eleven, you take the eleventh book in the Bible. Then when you have found the eleventh book, take the eleventh chapter and look at the eleventh verse." (Dr. Peter S. Ruckman, Bible Numerics, p. 33) Shall we try it? The eleventh book is I Kings. I Kings 11:11 reads: Wherefore the LORD said unto Solomon, Forasmuch as this is done of thee, and thou hast not kept my covenant and my statutes, which I have commanded thee, I will surely rend the kingdom from thee, and will give it to thy servant. (1 Kings 11:11) I kings 11:11 is a obvious reference to judgement upon Solomon. Solomon was the greatest, mightiest and wealthiest kingdom on earth during his day – ditto U.S.A. And because Solomon disobeyed God’s word, and "kept not my covenant and my statutes", God removed His blessing and protection from him – ditto U.S.A? THE JUDGEMENT OF ISRAEL. . . Only TWO Kings, Jehoiakim and Zedekiah, reigned "eleven" years in Israel and both brought terrible judgement upon Israel. It is my thought the things that would come upon America would come close to Yom Kippur, or there abouts. Repentance is a theme that runs throughout the whole Bible to Revelation. America has not repented. Jews begin 40 days of repentance from the month of Elul to Yom Kippur...there is a 10 day period (a space) from Rosh HaShanah to Yom Kippur. He (HaShem, blessed be His name) gives us space to repent (Jezebel missed this space of repentance in the Rev. 2:21). He has bowels of compassion, and His mercy endureth forever. When He holds out His scepter to us we should touch it so we may live, and not die (Esther). |
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| peggyelaine | Jan 30 2010, 09:12 AM Post #30 |
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Just thought I would tell you my 13 year old son had a dream. He isnt much on dreams but tells me when it disturbs him. He said in the dream that peoples minds were being stolen. They couldnt steal HIS mind and he was untouched. Dont know all of his dream but that really made me stop and think. |
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| Josepha | Jan 30 2010, 05:00 PM Post #31 |
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"Stealing the minds" is the mammon system that is a huge deception. For decades I asked God what mammon meant, and then I heard someone say: "They will not get mah money". The seduction with envy covetousness and greed is vast, the whole world is in its grip. The media are mostly tools of the enemy, their job is to steal minds, with ads and wicked movies, even the news is stolen. But then the cracks started to show. September 2008 as hurricane Josephine transformed from a physical storm to a financial storm, the world panicked but Heaven rejoiced. The Lord Jesus promised us He will protect those that are truly His. Because He is untouched by the world. |
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| peggyelaine | Feb 18 2010, 10:07 AM Post #32 |
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I would like to know if we are to be looking for JESUS return right now. I get confused when People say there will be no rapture-that everything for the Christian happens at the last trump. Do I prepare in the physical to ride out the storm??Also-tell me how to fight demonic attacks every day. There is some problem everyday and it seems to catch me off guard. I feel an urge to go around the reservation where I live and do spiritual warfare. |
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| Promised | Apr 10 2010, 06:11 PM Post #33 |
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On Nov 19, 2009 I dreamt I was on a bus with about 20 others. We stopped at a rest stop and several of us went into a little store. We were looking at some kinda shabby shoes when a tall, dark-haired man appeared behind the shoes and said, "There are no more elevens." When I woke up I interpreted it as a date and since we were in November I thought anytime between Nov 19 and Nov 30 would be significant. Not. I was really amazed to read all the meanings of the number eleven on this thread! I'd researched it also and found what I thought was the most important meaning to the dream which was "no more warnings." As an aside, the other night (April 7) I fervently asked God for a dream about the rapture. I dreamt I was in a large room full of brides (at least 50), all in wedding dresses. Each dress was exquisite, including mine. A woman I knew (not wearing a wedding dress) came up to me and asked me to put out my hands and said, "He told me to give you these jewels to wear." There were so many they filled my hands to overflowing and some spilled out onto the floor. I could interpret that two ways: 1) I'm going to get some jewels; 2) I have too much, more than I need and I'm not being a good steward by sharing what I have (saving everything for old age or a rainy day?). |
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| Wil | Apr 11 2010, 10:07 PM Post #34 |
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 Promised, thanks for sharing your dreams, interesting, yes no doubt time is very short now, can't wait 
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| gibby62 | Apr 12 2010, 08:35 AM Post #35 |
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Peggy Elaine: All rapture discussions are contained in the Bible section. You might want to do a search. I believe in the pan rapture. It will all pan out in the end!! |
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| Promised | Apr 13 2010, 12:28 PM Post #36 |
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Thanks Wil. Time IS very short now! |
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