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| Topic Started: Sep 17 2009, 12:53 PM (1,227 Views) | |
| 7SevenThunders7 | Sep 17 2009, 12:53 PM Post #1 |
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Hi Atn, Since I came back here, the dreams just keep coming. This one was horrible. By the way, I haven't been thinking about President Obama, of the Revived Roman Empire, of the Whore of Babylon, none of this, and I hadn't even read a thing about it. I have not been influenced prior. Since I don't have TV, I am barely able to understand what's going on over Health Care, but I think this may be the time of something big, due to this dream: In this dream, I saw a lady, dressed in rich attire, and she was reclining. Then, the Queen of England, approached her with a gift, a ring. I was shown the ring closely, it was orange and gold. The stone looked like a big chunk of orange that appeared almost like a cameo but I couldn't quite make the image out. The rich lady looked at the ring and power surged through her. She started to demand abominations to be brought to her. I heard her call for a little blonde girl, and instead a baby was brought to her. She hated the baby, and gave it to a servant. I was sickened by her, her desires and her power hungry cravings. I wont go into detail, it's too disgusting, but she was filled with sexual desires that were perverse and evil. The ring she wore was an engagement ring. She knew in her heart that she would get a second, more powerful ring as soon as she was wed, but she called to her bride-groom, and she waited for him on her chaise lounge. She went from being in a palace, to being in a crowd of people, up on a stage, and she waited for her fiance. He appeared, and the crowd cheered. She was power hungry for him, she didn't have love for him and she grew impatient for him to get to the stage. He made his way slowly through the crowd, shaking hands, smiling, waving. It was President Obama. He made his way to the podium. He didn't seem to notice the Whore of Babylon to his right, nor did the crowd see her there. He began to speak, I heard him mumbling his speach, while I also heard the vile desires of the whore next to him, speaking her desires to the crowd equally. She called for violence, for lewd behavior in public, for orgies, for this would gratify her. The people broke out in anger. Some people yelled, some people acted like they were going to break out in a riot. I became afraid and didn't want to see anymore. The Holy Spirit said to me, "If you cry, natural tears, you will wake up." So I cried, and pleaded to wake up. I did wake up. It was hard to shake this. I was so disturbed. I woke up and put on the coffee, and got online, and went to see the news reports. Obama is making a speech. ~7Seven |
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| MichaelInHisService | Sep 17 2009, 01:10 PM Post #2 |
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welcome back 7..I have to say that I'm not surprised. I think the U.S. has a huge role to play in the end times regardless of any wars or disasters. The U.S. has the most powerful military by so far a margin that it boggles the mind and it will be used by the beast to achieve his goals. In Messiah, Michael |
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| 7SevenThunders7 | Sep 17 2009, 01:25 PM Post #3 |
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Hi Michael, I had to edit my post, cause I wrote, "since I have tv" and it should have said, "since I DONT Have tv." What I am trying to say is, number one, I have no idea what's going on! lol! I am not biased, because I don't know the big deal over health care. I can't really understand the opposition. Not that I am pro-Obama, I voted for McCain, I am saying I don't understand. I am trying to understand the anger and the opposition, I just can't make any sense of politics right now. Does that make sense? If Civil War errupts, I will have no idea what the heck is going on! I wash my hands of politics in this country. Give to Caesar what is Caesar's and to God what is God's. My little brother told me our country will soon pay $.10 sales tax on the dollar; is that true? Most people don't even tithe 10%. Could someone please fill me in? Why are people calling Obama a communist? I have been in the dark, but this dream really got my attention. I admit I don't understand what's going on in our country today. ~7Seven |
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| MichaelInHisService | Sep 17 2009, 01:35 PM Post #4 |
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7seven - i don't watch tv either but i listen to the radio and read the internet. obama is being called a communist because of his ties to the saul alinsky and other like minded communists. Their goal is to infiltrate the gov't and make it into their(commy) image. it won't succeed but not from a lack of trying. With this in mind obama is remaking our country into more of a socialist version of europe and that is causing anger. also the media is ramping up the rhetoric that anyone that disagrees with BO is a racist. this is also causing anger. God forbid if anything happens to BO because it WILL bring about civil war if he is killed in office. if it happens it will be by the hands of those that brought him along. he has no idea that he is a change agent and is very expendable so that Nancy Pelosi, the leader of the House, and others can achieve their result. having said all that..GOD is in control so putting our trust or anger into a person will not get us anywhere.. i think the days of the left/democrats and right/republicans are almost over. People are waking up from the slumber of the left/right paradigm. In Messiah, Michael |
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| 7SevenThunders7 | Sep 17 2009, 02:00 PM Post #5 |
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Ok, thanks so much Micheal, God told me a long time ago not to listen to the media and the talking heads because they were liars. So, for me, and I was trying, reading it online was not explaining to me all this anger. Have you ever read about what caused WWI? I did, and wondered how that one assasination had caused war to ignite all over the world? Well, that's the same feeling I get trying to read all this. I turned on the radio, but they were talking about the girl who was kidnapped and held hostage for all those years. I truly feel like I am living in a different time period, trying to understand how WWIII was ignited. I do know that WWIII comes after the economic collapse and the flu decimate our land. I do understand that ties to communists would be a red flag and how people could become outraged. But I never read that anywhere. I was only alerted by my dream of the Whore at his right hand. That must be the EU. ~7Seven |
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| MichaelInHisService | Sep 17 2009, 02:17 PM Post #6 |
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7seven - i don't know that the beast is the EU...the revived roman empire is a theory by book writers..the scripture says it sits on 7 mountains which could be land masses..like 7 continents which would cover the whole earth. i think the whore is the religious spirit..either way the power of this nation will be transferred to the beast. on the media..i think the media could be the false prophet since there's a spirit behind it just like the dragon (satan) is and so the anti-christ could also be just the spirit against GOD...people are looking for an actual one man ruler which may happen but just not a person that could be called "THE ANTI-CHRIST". ..just a thought. In Messiah, Michael |
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| bassplayer | Sep 17 2009, 02:22 PM Post #7 |
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7Seven, Over the last two or three years I have come to the (sad) conclusion that this great nation, the US, is the "daughter of Babylon" mentioned in the scriptures. It was a very traumatic experience that I still don't think I have completely come to terms with. Read this please: http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/america_babylon.htm As usual, the true nature of the beast has been hidden in plain sight. Mark |
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| gibby62 | Sep 17 2009, 02:27 PM Post #8 |
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I feel like I'm living in Germany in the late 1930's/early 1940's. |
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| 7SevenThunders7 | Sep 17 2009, 02:42 PM Post #9 |
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Yes Michael, I am on the same page. I have spoken on the Beast and the Whore of Babylon before and I have said it was a spirit loosed in the world, that the beast is a spirit. That the antichrist is a spirit in the world. My understanding of the Beast on which the whore rides, is that it is Rome, the "City on Seven Hills" Collis Quirinalis, Collis Viminalis, Collis Capitolinus, Collis Esquilinus, Collis Palatinus, Collis Caelius, Collis Aventinus. Europe, Europa, the woman on the bull. This understanding is not just from a book. It's in the bible. She commits fornication with the Kings of the earth. Revelation Chapter 17: The Woman and the Beast 1One of the seven angels who had the seven bowls came and said to me, "Come, I will show you the punishment of the great prostitute, who sits on many waters. 2With her the kings of the earth committed adultery and the inhabitants of the earth were intoxicated with the wine of her adulteries." 3Then the angel carried me away in the Spirit into a desert. There I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast that was covered with blasphemous names and had seven heads and ten horns. 4The woman was dressed in purple and scarlet, and was glittering with gold, precious stones and pearls. She held a golden cup in her hand, filled with abominable things and the filth of her adulteries. 5This title was written on her forehead: MYSTERY BABYLON THE GREAT THE MOTHER OF PROSTITUTES AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. 6I saw that the woman was drunk with the blood of the saints, the blood of those who bore testimony to Jesus. When I saw her, I was greatly astonished. 7Then the angel said to me: "Why are you astonished? I will explain to you the mystery of the woman and of the beast she rides, which has the seven heads and ten horns. 8The beast, which you saw, once was, now is not, and will come up out of the Abyss and go to his destruction. The inhabitants of the earth whose names have not been written in the book of life from the creation of the world will be astonished when they see the beast, because he once was, now is not, and yet will come. 9"This calls for a mind with wisdom. The seven heads are seven hills on which the woman sits. 10They are also seven kings. Five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come; but when he does come, he must remain for a little while. 11The beast who once was, and now is not, is an eighth king. He belongs to the seven and is going to his destruction. 12"The ten horns you saw are ten kings who have not yet received a kingdom, but who for one hour will receive authority as kings along with the beast. 13They have one purpose and will give their power and authority to the beast. 14They will make war against the Lamb, but the Lamb will overcome them because he is Lord of lords and King of kings—and with him will be his called, chosen and faithful followers." 15Then the angel said to me, "The waters you saw, where the prostitute sits, are peoples, multitudes, nations and languages. 16The beast and the ten horns you saw will hate the prostitute. They will bring her to ruin and leave her naked; they will eat her flesh and burn her with fire. 17For God has put it into their hearts to accomplish his purpose by agreeing to give the beast their power to rule, until God's words are fulfilled. 18The woman you saw is the great city that rules over the kings of the earth." The Seven Heads are Seven Hills, they are also Seven Kings. I think Obama might be one of these kings, according to the dream I just had? I am not really good at this stuff, I admit that. The Prostitute is America? Revelation says that the Beast will hate the prostitute and will eat her flesh and burn her with fire. (nuclear war?) I am not sure about my mind having wisdom! lol! I am sure that I have a heart for Jesus Christ. ~*~<3 ~7Seven |
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| MichaelInHisService | Sep 17 2009, 02:53 PM Post #10 |
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7seven - i also think that the president will be one of the kings that has power..i hope people don't get caught up in the fact that you saw obama..it's the president but may or may not be obama. i don't think the prostitute/whore is america but the religious spirit probably embodied in the RCC which the beast will destroy. In Messiah, Michael |
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| 7SevenThunders7 | Sep 17 2009, 02:57 PM Post #11 |
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Thank you Mark, The US may be the Protistute, since the Beast will hate her and burn her and eat her flesh. I still think Europe is the Beast. I have to admit this gets confusing. I am glad I don't have to understand, I just love the Lord and serve Him alone. I really don't have an ego to deal with over being right or wrong anymore. If I am mistaken, the Lord will correct me and show me where I am wrong. We need to be so close to His Voice in this time and just trust in Him, Follow Him. No worries. ~7Seven |
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| MichaelInHisService | Sep 17 2009, 03:04 PM Post #12 |
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amen..GOD bless. |
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Isaiah 26:9 At night my soul longs for You, Indeed, my spirit within me seeks You diligently; For when the earth experiences Your judgments The inhabitants of the world learn righteousness. | |
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| 7SevenThunders7 | Sep 17 2009, 03:05 PM Post #13 |
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Lol, Gibby, I feel like I am from 100 years in the future, trying to make sense of it all; or 100 years in the past, who knows. But I get you. These is crazy times folks!  The dictator, the Great Depression and World War, yep, Germany in the 30's and 40's, plus add 1918. ~7Seven |
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| 7SevenThunders7 | Sep 17 2009, 03:13 PM Post #14 |
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This sure looks like the time of the end though, Pretty soon,    God Bless you too! ><> Remain In Him, ~7Seven |
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| bassplayer | Sep 17 2009, 04:14 PM Post #15 |
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As I said, it's hidden right in plain sight. Pull a quarter out of your pocket and look at the back of it. "And four great beasts came up from the sea, diverse one from another. The first was like a lion, and had eagle's wings: I beheld till the wings thereof were plucked, and it was lifted up from the earth, and made stand upon the feet as a man, and a man's heart was given to it." (Daniel 7:3-4, KJV) The eagle's wings represent the nation whose national symbol is the eagle. The lion represents the nation whose national symbol is the lion. Eagle: United States. Lion: Great Britain. The fourth beast of Daniel 7:7 (three verses farther along) is that final great kingdom or empire that comes in existence just before the Lord's return and the rapture of the church. It doesn't exist just yet. I think it's very close at hand. I believe it will come into its fulness at the conclusion of a brief, but devastating, war that most people have referred to as "World War III." |
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| bassplayer | Sep 17 2009, 04:26 PM Post #16 |
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Actually...you are. Only it's 2009 instead of 1939. Online research to do: Operation Paperclip http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip You see, you and I were taught that the US defeated Germany and Japan in WWII. We did. But, we didn't defeat the group that created the German war machine: the Nazis. They were imported into the US by our own government to work on our missile program. More online research to do: HR645, the bill that congress passed authorizing the construction of detention camps on military bases. Most people think this is just "conspiracy theory" blabbering. It's an actual law now. The camps are being constructed. The Nazis have renamed themselves and taken control of the US through a vast network of corporations and bought-off (or blackmailed) politicians. So if our country bgins to remind you of those newsreels taken in Germany before, during, and right after WWII, there's a reason why. |
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| gibby62 | Sep 17 2009, 08:58 PM Post #17 |
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That's why people were upset about Obama giving the speeches to the schools. Shadows of Hitler--cult of personality. I told people that just because we as a nation took God out of the schools that doesn't mean the President should go in. Of course, they took God out of the schools and the guns came in. I think the school speech was more about trust. It wasn't that it was a bad idea necessarily, it was about the fact nobody trusted what Obama would say to our kids. I would have to go back to reread the dream, but if I remember correctly, the thing that stuck out to me was how Obama IGNORED the whore. I thought that was pretty interesting. Like ignoring a 300 pound gorilla in the room. |
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| 7SevenThunders7 | Sep 17 2009, 09:03 PM Post #18 |
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Hi Gibby, I guess I should clarify, that no one could see the whore, not the crowd, not Obama. However, she controlled both Obama and the crowd. She is a spirit. ~7Seven |
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| gibby62 | Sep 17 2009, 09:25 PM Post #19 |
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Oops!! My bad! I believe that is a TOTAL possibility. There is a spirit that surrounds Obama and "infects" those to whom he speaks. |
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| wanderer | Sep 17 2009, 11:10 PM Post #20 |
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A ring was discovered by archaeologists in Israel just this week. I've searched the web and couldn't find much about it (can't remember where I read it). I think it was dark gold and had a figure carved onto a large stone. One citation said it either belonged to Alexander the Great or the figure carved on it was of him (could look like a cameo). I looked up the kingdoms in the statue of the dream Daniel interpreted for King Nebuchadnezzar. Alexander the Great was the Greek emperor who conquered Babylon from 330-27 B.C., and was referred to as the third metal: belly and thighs of bronze. In Daniel 2:28 Daniel tells the King "But there is a God in heaven that revealeth secrets and maketh known to the king Nebuchadnezzar WHAT SHALL BE IN THE LATTER DAYS." The next army that conquered Babylon was the Roman Empire. For what it's worth. |
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