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| Are Keith & "Final Call" Now "False Prophets"? | |
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| Topic Started: Aug 18 2008, 07:01 PM (2,002 Views) | |
| nightbird | Aug 20 2008, 07:52 AM Post #21 |
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1Corinthians 14:29 Let 2 or 3 prophets speak, and let the others pass judgment. v:32,33 and the spirit of the prophets are subject to prophets; for God is not a God of confusion but of peace. I am not understanding some of the comments made here about not judging, when the bible clearly tells to judge and to test all spirits. I am still waiting to see if FC or Keith are true prophets. (quote from Ruth) I'm waiting also along with you. |
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| Wil | Aug 20 2008, 08:46 AM Post #22 |
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In a couple of sentences Ruth he is saying that the words of the prophecy are to be judged, not the person if they got it wrong. There is accountability, however condenming them over it falls into the category of he who is without sin. |
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| domino | Aug 20 2008, 11:27 AM Post #23 |
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Amen, Will! Let us not seek mercy for ourselves, and condemnation for others. Susan |
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| Stinker | Aug 20 2008, 05:12 PM Post #24 |
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Well, it is the 20th, they said the 15th. I believe God will do what he wants to do when he wants to do it. I think everyone can figure out the rest. |
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| Lazarusty | Aug 20 2008, 07:50 PM Post #25 |
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What Keith and Final Call said were quite different. Final Call talked about a line in the sand being drawn on Aug 15th and SOON AFTER a major event would occur but he didn't know what or exactly when. We know what Jesus is like with the word "soon" - "I am coming SOON" - and now, here we are, 2000 years later, still waiting... Keith, however, specifically stated a terrorist attack that would disrupt the olypmics. He also admitted that if it didn't come to pass, then he was wrong. At least he will be humble enough to repent it seems. Matthew Stephen also predicted a terrorist attack which would disrupt the olypmics and that the USA WOULD GET THE BLAME. It would probably be the BIGGEST backlash against America in history. Therefore, if nothing untowards happens at the olympics, Keith and Matthew will be proven false but NOT FINAL CALL who has not tied any event in specifically with the olypmics at all. Finall Call was here first. Keith came on board later, and BY HIS OWN ADMISSION, grabbed the Aug 15th date that Final Call had posted and tied it in with his own predictions. Is it an example case of the tares coming alongside the wheat here? Time is running out. It appears it would've been more effective to disrupt the olypmics in the middle than towards the end. We've under four days left. Edited by Lazarusty, Aug 20 2008, 07:55 PM.
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| dinosaur | Aug 20 2008, 08:43 PM Post #26 |
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This Wednesday afternoon I experienced a deep sense of calm that there would be no attacks on athletes at the Chinese Olympics. Since I am no prophet, is this pronounced proof of my delusional mind? |
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| Wil | Aug 21 2008, 12:02 AM Post #27 |
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From all of Keith's writings and personal comms. I can state with good confidence that Keith is anything but a tare, as for his believing that the 15th is when the Olympic prophecy would be fulfilled it had to do with his believe that FC is one of the team leaders and he saw synchronicity in the two. So I think considering it was an understandable conclusion. |
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| Ruth | Aug 21 2008, 11:38 AM Post #28 |
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we will all know in 3 days if Keith or M. Stephens are true prophets, they both prophecy some sort of attack at the Olympics. |
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| Stinker | Aug 21 2008, 10:21 PM Post #29 |
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I predict, that no one can predict anything. except this one: These two interesting and amazing prophecies were given long ago in Norway. JESUS IS COMING SOON (SUDDENLY) An old woman of 90 from Valdres in Norway had a vision from God in 1968. The evangelist Emanuel Minos had meetings (services) where she lived. He had the opportunity to meet her, and she told him what she had seen. He wrote it down, but thought it to be so unintelligible that he put it in a drawer. Now, almost 30 years later, he understands he has to share the vision with others. The woman from Valdres was a very alert, reliable, awake and credible Christian, with a good reputation among all who knew her. This is what she saw: "I saw the time just before the coming of Jesus and the outbreak of the Third World War. I saw the events with my natural eyes. I saw the world like a kind of a globe and saw Europe, land by land. I saw Scandinavia. I saw Norway. I saw certain things that would take place just before the return of Jesus, and just before the last calamity happens, a calamity the likes of which we have never before experienced. She mentioned four waves: 1. "First before Jesus comes and before the Third World War breaks out there will be a ‘détente’ like we have never had before. There will be peace between the super powers in the east and the west, and there will be a long peace. (Remember, that this was in 1968 when the cold war was at its highest. E. Minos) In this period of peace there will be disarmament in many countries, also in Norway and we are not prepared when it (the war) comes. The Third World War will begin in a way no one would have anticipated - and from an unexpected place. 2. "A lukewarmness without parallel will take hold of the Christians, a falling away from true, living Christianity. Christians will not be open for penetrating preaching. They will not, like in earlier times, want to hear of sin and grace, law and gospel, repentance and restoration. There will come a substitute instead: prosperity (happiness) Christianity. "The important thing will be to have success, to be something; to have material things, things that God never promised us in this way. Churches and prayer houses will be emptier and emptier. Instead of the preaching we have been used to for generations -like, to take your cross up and follow Jesus, - entertainment, art and culture will invade the churches where there should have been gatherings for repentance and revival. This will increase markedly just before the return of Jesus. 3. "There will be a moral disintegration that old Norway has never experienced the likes of. People will live together like married without being married. (I do not believe the concept ‘co-habitor’? existed in 1968 - E. Minos.) Much uncleanness before marriage, and much infidelity in marriage will become the natural (the common), and it will be justified from every angle. It will even enter Christian circles and we pet it - even sin against nature. Just before Jesus return there will be TV- programs like we have never experienced. (TV had just arrived in Norway in 1968. E. Minos) "TV will be filled with such horrible violence that it teaches people to murder and destroy each other, and it will be unsafe in our streets. People will copy what they see. There will not be only one ‘station’ on TV, it will be filled with ‘stations.’ (She did not know the word ‘channel’ which we use today. Therefore she called them stations. E. Minos.) TV will be just like the radio where we have many ‘stations,’ and it will be filled with violence. People will use it for entertainment. We will see terrible scenes of murder and destruction one of the other, and this will spread in society. Sex scenes will also be shown on the screen, the most intimate things that takes place in a marriage." (I protested and said, we have a paragraph that forbids this kind of thing. E. Minos.) There the old woman said: "It will happen, and you will see it. All we have had before will be broken down, and the most indecent things will pass before our eyes." 4. "People from poor countries will stream to Europe. (In 1968 there was no such thing as immigration. E. Minos.) They will also come to Scandinavia - and Norway. There will be so many of them that people will begin to dislike them and become hard with them. They will be treated like the Jews before the Second World War. Then the full measure of our sins will have been reached (I protested at the issue of immigration. I did not understand it at the time. E. Minos.) The tears streamed from the old woman’s eyes down her cheeks. "I will not see it, but you will. Then suddenly, Jesus will come and the Third World War breaks out. It will be a short war." (She saw it in the vision.) "All that I have seen of war before is only child’s play compared to this one, and it will be ended with a nuclear atom bomb. The air will be so polluted that one cannot draw one’s breath. It will cover several continents, America, Japan, Australia and the wealthy nations. The water will be ruined (contaminated?). We can no longer till the soil. The result will be that only a remnant will remain. The remnant in the wealthy countries will try to flee to the poor countries, but they will be as hard on us as we were on them. "I am so glad that I will not see it, but when the time draws near, you must take courage and tell this. I have received it from God, and nothing of it goes against what the Bible tells. "The one who has his sin forgiven and has Jesus as Savior and Lord, is safe." This is the only prophecy I have ever seen that chilled me to the bone. Just do a search keywords Norway and prophecy. 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| Pinky1441 | Aug 22 2008, 12:15 AM Post #30 |
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"The tears streamed from the old woman’s eyes down her cheeks. "I will not see it, but you will. Then suddenly, Jesus will come and the Third World War breaks out. It will be a short war." (She saw it in the vision.) "All that I have seen of war before is only child’s play compared to this one, and it will be ended with a nuclear atom bomb. The air will be so polluted that one cannot draw one’s breath. It will cover several continents, America, Japan, Australia and the wealthy nations. The water will be ruined (contaminated?). We can no longer till the soil. The result will be that only a remnant will remain. The remnant in the wealthy countries will try to flee to the poor countries, but they will be as hard on us as we were on them." Now THAT sounds like something interesting... |
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PINKY ..."In the latter days you will understand it perfectly." Jeremiah 23:20b | |
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| nightrider158 | Aug 22 2008, 01:43 AM Post #31 |
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Earthquake hits China's border with Burma Posted Wed Aug 20, 2008 4:00pm AEST A 5.3-magnitude earthquake hit China's border with Burma earlier today, destroying homes and forcing more than 1,000 people to evacuate, the US Geological Survey (USGS) and Chinese state media said. The tremor struck at 5:35am (local time), 224 kilometres from the city of Dali in south-west China and 65 kilometres from Myitkyina in Burma, according to a statement on the USGS website. The USGS said the quake was centred at a depth of about eight kilometres. About 1,200 people were forced to evacuate their homes near the epicentre, an area populated with large numbers of ethnic minorities, China's state-run Xinhua news agency said. Many homes collapsed in Sudian and several other towns also reported damage, Xinhua reported. There were no immediate reports of casualties. A massive quake hit south-west China in May, leaving nearly 70,000 dead, with about 18,000 people still missing. http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/08/20/2341494.htm?section=world |
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| nightrider158 | Aug 22 2008, 01:45 AM Post #32 |
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Second China quake in same area kills 3, injures hundreds BEIJING, Aug 22 (Reuters) - A second earthquake in two days in the same county of southwest China killed at least three people, injured more than 100 and prompted the evacuation of over 120,000, state media reported on Friday. The two quakes jolted western Yunnan province, south of mountainous Sichuan where a devastating quake on May 12 killed at least 70,000 people. Thursday's tremor, measuring 5.9 on the Richter scale, hit Yingjiang county, bringing down houses and cutting electricity supplies throughout the regin, Xinhua news agency (www.xinhuanet.com) said. At least 20 people were seriously injured, it added. A 5-magnitude quake hit the same county on Wednesday, forcing thousands of people to evacuate. No casualties were reported. Earlier this month, a strong earthquake rocked Sichuan and Gansu provinces, killing one person and injuring 23. (Reporting by Beijing newsroom; Editing by Nick Macfie http://www.reuters.com/article/homepageCrisis/idUSPEK143188._CH_.2400 |
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| nightrider158 | Aug 22 2008, 01:53 AM Post #33 |
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Future predictions 2008, 18th September: An earthquake with magnitude of approximately 9.1 will rock China, simultaneously causing a tsunami of more than 30 metres to occur, resulting in the deaths of more than 1 million people. Although this huge earthquake will happen after the Olympics have ended, there will be a series of relatively smaller earthquakes occurring in China before the huge earthquake.The China government, which is more concerned with the success of the Olympics, wills most likely neglect to employ appropriate cautionary measures, thus the high casualty rate. If the China government does not publicize the occurrence of these minor earthquakes and evacuate people, the number of deaths will be as predicted. link http://maikarumikey.blogspot.com/2008/06/mr-juseleenos-future-predictions-who.html |
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| Israeli | Aug 22 2008, 03:36 AM Post #34 |
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"2008, 18th September: An earthquake with magnitude of approximately 9.1 will rock China". Oh BOY! Another DATE! Stinker, where did you get the prophecy of the old woman? Never mind... http://www.churchisraelforum.com/Jesus_is_coming_soon_suddenly.htm Edited by Israeli, Aug 22 2008, 03:38 AM.
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| Kaylyn | Aug 22 2008, 09:03 AM Post #35 |
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| Pinky1441 | Aug 22 2008, 10:18 AM Post #36 |
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This person also predicted this: 2008, July: There will be an earthquake in Japan , which will cause a tsunami of 30 plus metres high to occur as well. As we all know, that didn't happen.... |
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PINKY ..."In the latter days you will understand it perfectly." Jeremiah 23:20b | |
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| dinosaur | Aug 22 2008, 10:56 AM Post #37 |
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It is possible God will allow a terrrorist attack during the final hours of the Chinese Olympics. Then I will be exposed as a false non-prophet, and Wil can import the burn-alive-at-the-stake emoticon so incensed ATN members can feast on roasted dinosaur. (*)  (*) Free popcorn will be available for vegetarians. 
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| METHUSELAH | Aug 22 2008, 03:29 PM Post #38 |
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dinosaur- If that happens the membership here won't bother taking the time to grease the spit, let alone wait for a new emoticon... They'll eat you ALIVE!  Meth |
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| Israeli | Aug 22 2008, 03:41 PM Post #39 |
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raw dinosaur....ew. I'll throw stones, thanks... |
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| METHUSELAH | Aug 22 2008, 03:51 PM Post #40 |
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Sushi Rex? Anyone???
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