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| Topic Started: Aug 11 2008, 02:01 AM (3,448 Views) | |
| LittleGiant | Aug 11 2008, 02:01 AM Post #1 |
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Have seen this kind of super duper detailed "God told me alone" stuff too many times to get excited. By September, the fuse will magically get stuck at 99% and remain there. Been there, done seen this before! Self proclaimed prophets get their fews days in the sun....and then it all passes by......(the better ones author books for profit and get rich).....only to be picked up by the new prophet of the hour. God has already told us in His word what He wants us ALL to know concerning the end-times. Not intending to sound harsh......But we all have been around this mountain before.....Once around is enough. Smile......we are all in this together.....Don't worry Dated prophecies or dated God-told-me are to be expected in the time that we live in. Low He is in the desert..... Remember Aussie Bloke? He gave us all a fine trip for a few days... Just my thoughts on this matter....... |
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| Final Call | Aug 11 2008, 06:01 AM Post #2 |
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God did not tell me alone. Many others have the same message. But it matters not what you or anyone thinks of me now..what will matter VERY soon is what GOD thinks of YOU!. In any case.. My time here is done. I am human..I make mistakes...I hurt..I feel pain...I cry...I bleed...but for some reason..when a mere human like me tries to speak a word..suddenly I am expected to be some sort of super human who feels nothing except eternal love. Boy oh boy..its no wonder the church is going to cop it first..they have the LEAST amount of love out of all the peoples of the earth. |
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| blessed girl | Aug 11 2008, 07:04 AM Post #3 |
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Final Call please! Enough with your drama. I for one am fed up with it. |
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| w8n4him | Aug 11 2008, 07:17 AM Post #4 |
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Final Call is right.......there is short supply of love among Christians, who are supposed to be the ones demonstrating. Today's Christians are quick on the accountability wagon, but short on showing love. |
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| nightbird | Aug 11 2008, 07:50 AM Post #5 |
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If people tell you that you are not to judge God’s ‘anointed’, remember this: Deuteronomy 13 v 12-14 “13 If you hear it said about one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you to live in 13 that wicked men have arisen among you and have led the people of their town astray, saying, “Let us go and worship other gods” (gods you have not known), 14 then you must inquire, probe and investigate it thoroughly. And if it is true and it has been proved that this detestable thing has been done among you, 15 you must certainly put to the sword all who live in that town.” (Sword = Word of God) Proverbs 17 v 150 “He who justifies the wicked, and he who condemns the just, both of them alike are an abomination to the LORD” Proverbs 18 v 15 “The heart of the prudent acquires knowledge, and the ear of the wise seeks knowledge” Titus 1 v 9 “Holding fast the faithful word as he has been taught, that he may be able, by sound doctrine, both to exhort and convict those who contradict.” 1 Timothy 1 v 3 “That you may charge some that they teach no other doctrine” John 7 v 24 Jesus said: “Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment” (using the Word of God) Rom 16 v 17 “Now I urge you, brethren, note those who cause divisions and offenses, contrary to the doctrine which you learned, and avoid them” 1 Corinthians 5 v 9 v 13 “9 I wrote you in my letter not to associate with immoral people; 10 I did not at all mean with the immoral people of this world, or with the covetous and swindlers, or with idolaters, for then you would have to go out of the world. 11 But actually, I wrote to you not to associate with any so-called brother if he is an immoral person, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or a swindler–not even to eat with such a one. 12 For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Do you not judge those who are within the church? 13 But those who are outside, God judges. REMOVE THE WICKED MAN FROM AMONG YOURSELVES (‘Do not judge those who are within the Church?’ - This is an angry response by Paul to those who say ‘do not judge those within the church’, he is saying, WHAT? REMOVE THE WICKED MAN FROM AMONG YOURSELVES.) Eph 4:14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive; If someone tells you that to speak up or warn a brother that they are in error or deception is wrong and we need to instead ’show love’ for ‘God is love’, remember this: When we show someone they are in error it’s out of deep concern and love, the same love and concern that Jesus has when his Children go astray. Acts 20 v 25-31 ”25 Now I know that none of you among whom I have gone about preaching the kingdom will ever see me again. 26 Therefore, I declare to you today that I am innocent of the blood of all men. 27 For I have not hesitated to proclaim to you the whole will of God. 28 Keep watch over yourselves and all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers. Be shepherds of the church of God, which he bought with his own blood. 29 I know that after I leave, savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. 30 Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them. 31 So be on your guard! Remember that for three years I never stopped warning each of you night and day with tears“ If someone tells you that a particular person is anointed (hence you HAVE to listen to them) but you yourself are a truly born again believer, remember this: 1 Jonn 2 v 27 “But the anointing which you have received from Him abides in you, and you do not need that anyone teach you; but as the same anointing teaches you concerning all things, and is true, and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you will abide in Him.” I John 2 v 20 v 21 “But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and you know all things. I have not written to you because you do not know the truth, but because you know it, and that no lie is of the truth” In posting this I am not saying FC or Keith are wicked, or perhaps not hearing from God. What I am saying is, that the Word of God tells His people to use the brains He gave us, and evaluate every word spoken by anyone, including myself by His Word. The bible is our measuring line for truth, without it we are open targets for anything. This is how cults flourish. If Final Call and Keith are prophetic, and servants of the Lord, they will be transparent, and welcome scrutiny, and the use of the scriptures to check them out. This is true love. |
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| day late | Aug 11 2008, 08:07 AM Post #6 |
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I know enough to know that God sometimes asks His people to do strange things. Isa 20:2 At the same time spake the LORD by Isaiah the son of Amoz, saying, Go and loose the sackcloth from off thy loins, and put off thy shoe from thy foot. And he did so, walking naked and barefoot. Isa 20:3 And the LORD said, Like as my servant Isaiah hath walked naked and barefoot three years [for] a sign and wonder upon Egypt and upon Ethiopia; Lets' face it walking around barefoot and naked is not a good way to prove that you are hearing from The Lord. Now FC and Keith have made some bold statements. I think we have little choice but to sit back and wait a few days to see if they are true or not. |
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| Shershalom | Aug 11 2008, 08:08 AM Post #7 |
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"Nightbird wrote: "...I am not saying FC or Keith are wicked, or perhaps not hearing from God. What I am saying is, that the Word of God tells His people to use the brains He gave us, and evaluate every word spoken by anyone, including myself by His Word. The bible is our measuring line for truth, without it we are open targets for anything. This is how cults flourish. If Final Call and Keith are prophetic, and servants of the Lord, they will be transparent, and welcome scrutiny, and the use of the scriptures to check them out. This is true love."     for posting Nightbird!  "Then Yeshua said ... "If you abide in MY WORD, you are my disciples indeed. And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free." John 8:31-32 |
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SherShalom "Blessed is HE that comes in the NAME of the LORD." MATTHEW 23:39 | |
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| DaveLovesJesus | Aug 11 2008, 08:26 AM Post #8 |
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This is how cults flourish. If Final Call and Keith are prophetic, and servants of the Lord, they will be transparent, and welcome scrutiny, and the use of the scriptures to check them out. This is true love I hate to be one to burst a bubble here, but go tell that to the Pharisees trying to understand Jesus. Then read the verse where the disciples ask Him, "Why do you speak to the people in parables?" Personally, my thoughts are this, and this is not necessarily a "defense" of Keith and Final Call: I think when Jesus comes back, He will challenge the teaching of our day and very possibly our expectations of who we think He'll be. There is so much tradition mixed in to our faith that if people didn't recognize Jesus as messiah when He returned, they would be offended by some of His Words. I believe we will understand so much more when we see Him. It is possibly why Keith and Final Call may ruffle some feathers here. At a basic level, they are not leading people away from God, but are telling people to repent because the time is short and some very bad things are about to happen. I have exchanged a few emails with Keith and he seems very genuine in what he understands and does not yet understand. Is it possible that he has some or all of this of this wrong? Maybe... but let's watch and see. I for one am watching in a fearful antcipation. Keith has even gone to enough detail as to post what is going to happen in a 24 hour period on the 14th if I understand Him correctly. At least wait until then. If nothing happens and Keith is wrong, there will be time for "I told you so's" then. We have to watch with an open mind because whatever God is about to do will probably be beyond all our expectations. And I believe, a prophet will come upon the scene who is hearing from God. We need to watch and wait. God bless, DaveLovesJesus |
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| j-Z | Aug 11 2008, 08:32 AM Post #9 |
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FC - don't worry. when august 16th comes, you will have at least a few people who aren't going to condemn you. remember the "we reap what we sow" parable and learn from it. if you plant an apple seed, don't expect to get an orange. i know you aren't a "super" human just like none of us are. that kind of perception and outlook on ourselves makes us feel comfortable to say and do things we shouldn't say and do. the weight of trying to live up to our own expectations on ourselves is too much to carry. let the "super prophet" outlook go and just be yourself. cheers, Jz |
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| domino | Aug 11 2008, 09:48 AM Post #10 |
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I for one will be watching and waiting to see the outcome of these prophecies. FC, hang in there. Lots of us respect you for your willingness to say what make many people uncomfortable. God is in control. So be it. Love in Christ, Susan |
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| Ruth | Aug 11 2008, 10:21 AM Post #11 |
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2nd Peter v:21 no prophecy was ever made by an act of human will, but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God. But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will also be false teachers among you. 2nd Peter v:2 Many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of the truth will be maligned; and in their greed they will exploit you with false words. Final Call, I am not calling you a false prophet. I am just surprised by your defensive behavior when your fellow Christian sisters and brothers are only doing what our apostle Peter has taught us to do...to test all prophecy and teachings. We are to make sure they are of the Lord. The bible tells us to do just that. |
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| autoimmune | Aug 11 2008, 10:36 AM Post #12 |
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That does not make it true in and of itself, Final Call. The numerous prophecies concerning coming catastrophic events may also be the result of widespread, soullish, human ego-driven fears within Christians based on the present state of the world. That is why many here test them against the scriptures. I came here because your words had a ring of truth to me. I cannot say this is the date and time, or that it will be exactly as I've seen you describe it, but the event you describes does match something I've believed will happen for 25 years now. Whether it will be in my lifetime I have no idea. Still, such "words" catch my attention and that's why I registered here.
<Smile> What God thinks of us ALWAYS matters, prophecies or not. Either we are living in His Truth and Love by the power of His Holy Spirit, or we are not. Any moment could be our last here on earth, either through natural death or through His coming, so it is not the words you prophecy that mean anything, only that they are a reminder that we are always to be in a state of present readiness to meet Him in a deeper way than we can now live as human beings.
I certainly can understand being human. All Christians are. Yet, we are expected to "be perfect, even as our heavenly Father is perfect." This is a process, Final Call, something we grow in as we grow in Christ. However, I disagree with you that this can be used for an excuse to answer others unlovingly. If the Spirit has given you words of prophecy to speak to others, then He can also give you the grace to answer objections with that "eternal love" you speak of. Have you stopped to ask for that grace before responding to others? I've read many of your posts over the last year or so here and you seem to be very quick to respond in anger when questioned. You show a desire to grow in Love, but I am not sure you are disciplining your will as often as you ought, giving it over to the Spirit, before answering others. The same Spirit who leads you to give words of prophecy can also provide the grace needed to overcome our human failure to love. In your favor, I have seen you say often you will have to make the same choice as the rest of us if your word of prophecy is true. Ask for the grace to make that choice each time a brother or sister in Christ questions you, Final Call. If you cannot make the choice for Love with your brethren in Christ now, how will you suddenly find the grace to make it on the 15th if your words are truly from God? Mary Ellen[/quote] |
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| LittleGiant | Aug 11 2008, 11:49 AM Post #13 |
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When someone posts a super-detailed, dated, and God-told-me-only warning......... You can be sure the mature men/women with Godly wisdom will be there to look over the matter......... This is new to many; but old hat to others. When someone declares God-told-me....it is time to see if God really, in fact, told them. (This goes for Pastors or saint) The mature and wise should be at the ready to protect the others who grab quickly at such false God-told-me-only prophecies or warnings. Protecting others from false God-told-me-only is real LOVE. That is the duty of the leaders of the church......Paul in a wink, would have stood up and protected the church.... That may sound harsh to some.....but it is really Love. |
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| notred | Aug 11 2008, 12:07 PM Post #14 |
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Because all of these detailed dated internet spread prophecies have failed, I for one will not "pass it around" by sending to everyones email box. God is and will deal with people on a much more personal and local level then the net, and maybe God will around August 15, if our net prophets are really hearing from God. But I do bristle when someone says to tell everyone or their blood will be on my head. Been there, done that from Y2K onward. I have no credibility left as far as warning anyone of anything. A lot of folks are very sceptical of just about any "prophecy" read on the internet, as well they should be. I have prayed much about this and I do not get any "yes this is right" back from God, and that may be my ability to hear, I admit. So I am taking a wait and see posture. One thing nice, FC and Keith are not selling a book, survival food or gold...yet. Edited by notred, Aug 11 2008, 01:55 PM.
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| detmi7mile | Aug 11 2008, 12:11 PM Post #15 |
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Well I agree that the Pharisees and Jews missed Jesus because they were so stuck on what they already knew. But they were ignorant. The scriptures clearly told them a messiah was coming. But with us in this generation, it's totally different. You have to ask yourself, if we don't go by the scriptures, how else will we know something is from God or not? The bible is the main reason we are saved and it helps us and guides us through our daily walks. Let's say you just throw the bible out and everybody is getting "words from the Lord". How are we supposed to measure whether or not it's spoken from God? That's why God gave us his written word. We are fallen creatures with a sinful nature as I've said before and trying to decipher whether or not God told us something by inner impressions or voices in our head is not very wise. Even dreams are sometimes just that, dreams. I see so many dreams talking about nukes going off in LA. then I hear California is going to fall off into the ocean, then somebody else says they're gonna get attacked by the Chinese and Russians. I still can't understand why people get mad when people want to test or question a word from God. If nobody did this, then we would have to believe everybody who has a word from God. I know you say believers are sincere in their words from God at times, but is that an excuse to believe every "word from the Lord" that everyone says? Whether people know it or not, if you say, I know without a doubt God has spoken this to me (FC), YOU ARE A PROPHET. You are claiming you got direct revelation from God....GOD NEVER LIES. So if nothing happens on the 15th or after the 29th of December, you did not hear from God. I mean just look at Shelby Corbitt from last year. SHE WAS SURE SHE HEARD FORM GOD THAT THE RAPTURE WAS GONNA BE IN 2007. It didn't happen so she clearly didn't hear from Him. That doesn't mean we condemn anyone, but it is so frustrating because the believers don't act with caution. Soon as one word goes away, here comes someone else with another one to tickle ears. I'm gonna post this again: http://cicministry.org/commentary/issue98.htm |
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| SpiritIsWilling | Aug 11 2008, 12:53 PM Post #16 |
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I do understand where many are coming from on this board. It is true that we need to test everything, but just as FC is accused of being unloving and this and that, some of the responses that I've seen given to him were not in love. I have read FC give feedback to whomever had questions and he tried to clear things up to the best of his ability. He admitted that some things are not clear to him. I know that whenever we prophecy, we are held accountable for that prophecy. The bible tells us to speak out if we have the faith that God is speaking through us and we are also told to quench not the Spirit. If FC was to come on here right now and respond...again, something else that he says would either be taken out of context or misconstrued. There are times when I feel like...  ...concerning some of the things that FC have said, but every time I took it to the Lord in prayer and in turn He would give me scripture to help me understand. None of us are perfect or above reproach. We are all human. I know that those who oppose FC's prophecy mean well and are only doing what is instructed of them by testing all things, but FC is NOT our enemy; Satan is. 
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Matthew 16:26 For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul? 
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| justme | Aug 11 2008, 01:06 PM Post #17 |
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My 2 cents; I have a wait and see about any dates that have been posted because I have seen so many of them fail. However I do not see anything wrong with repenting and being prepared in our hearts for anything that may happen. Because I know that soon things are going to go crazy in this world. And most of these things that have been posted is confirmation of what I believe God has been telling me for over a year. When I try to pinpoint a certain time frame I come up with nothing specific. But when I think about it starting soon I get an uneasy feeling. So for all of you who feel something is about to break forth just stay in a repentant mind set and do not get too caught up in a certain date. So if the 15th passes without much fanfare do not rush to condemn anyone. But pray that they be not discouraged in their walk, and that God keep them close to him. |
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| SpiritIsWilling | Aug 11 2008, 01:15 PM Post #18 |
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Matthew 16:26 For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?
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| DaveLovesJesus | Aug 11 2008, 01:31 PM Post #19 |
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detmi7mile, Please understand me here. I'm not mad at you or anyone else personally for questioning things. I'm just waiting to see what is about to happen or not happen. My point is, we should have an idea on Friday right? Let's just see... I'm not suggesting we throw the Bible out of the window either. I just think how we understand it may change when Jesus gives us His opinion. I personally don't think this generation is any different than the Jews and Pharisees. They studied the Torah much more than this generation knows their Bible. I think that's why the great deception (apostacy) is going to (or already is) happen. I think we are worse actually. We are supposed to test the words received detmi7mile and I for one don't fault you for it. By definition, you are right, that Final Call and Keith meet the requirements to be a prophet because prophets are messengers with message and information from God. I will say this about Shelby Corbitt and this is a great example. Shelby Corbitt did NOT receive a message that 2007 was the year. She was given a word from a friend that she thought was the beginning of a countdown. In comparing that start date to what she received, the summer of 2007 was her conclusion. However, everyone has blasted her as false prophet, but when you look at what she said, you can see where the slip was. A date was never given in her vision at all, but many got on the condemnation train and ran her over several times. We should never set aside the Word of God if it conflicts with a word given today, but when a word fails (they ALL have so far), we have to love that person who gave it. They are hurting deeply because they don't understand why. Many have attacked FC and Keith and we are not being lights for Jesus when we do. If we have called back a brother from sin by reasoning and lovingkindness, we have saved a brother. That is much more important to me than pointing out their fate/condemnation according to the Word. Jesus wants us to be change-agents and draw all we can to Him before He returns. If they are emotional or even on the attack... forgive... don't lob a grenade back. Heap burning coals over their heads. Be peacemakers, lights for Christ for those you believe are lost. If you think they are wrong, let their date pass and reason with them. Who knows, you may save a brother or sister to redemption. Jesus said, "I desire mercy...", but we treat every false prophet like the Jews did the harlot who was caught in adultry. We are not without sin. I do agree that messages like this tickle our ears. I am watching with anticipation, yet fearful in what may come. I would not want a single person lost, but I'm excited about the great harvest possibly coming and then the reign of our King beginning. If this stops tickling our ears, then we need to pray. God bless, DaveLovesJesus |
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| detmi7mile | Aug 11 2008, 02:50 PM Post #20 |
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I agree DLJ We should always act in love. Also if we lok at the prophets in the bible or people who received words from God, there was no doubting. There was no, "was that God?", "Well I think it might be him so just in case I'm going to give the word"...God gave nothing to the imagination. When people heard God, there were 110% sure it was him. Go knew this and that's why he spoke audibly instead of the way the majority of christians expect him to today. |
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