| We hope you enjoy your visit. You're currently viewing our forum as a guest. This means you are limited to certain areas of the board and there are some features you can't use. If you join our community, you'll be able to access member-only sections, and use many member-only features such as customizing your profile, sending personal messages, and voting in polls. Registration is simple, fast, and completely free. Join our community! If you're already a member please log in to your account to access all of our features: |
| Is Harry Potter Harming Children? | |
|---|---|
| Topic Started: Jul 25 2008, 04:13 PM (298 Views) | |
| Revelation1217 | Jul 25 2008, 04:13 PM Post #1 |
|
Newbie
  ![]](http://209.85.122.85/static/1/pip_r.png)
|
Is Harry Potter Initiating Children Into Magic, Wicca, Witchcraft & Satanism? The video in the article posted below claims that the Harry Potter series of books and movies is leading our children into things such as sorcery, curses, black magic, demon possession, witchcraft and satanism: http://shatteredparadigm.blogspot.com/2008/07/harry-potter-series-of-books-movies.html What is your opinion about the material the video presents? Should we let our kids read and watch Harry Potter? |
 |
 
|
| Pinky1441 | Jul 25 2008, 05:55 PM Post #2 |
Advanced Member
|
Hmmmm I was a bit afraid to watch it when it first came out. my sister who is in her 30's is really into it. Her two kids, 3 1/2 and 2, went to just about every Harry Potter book opening at midnight. She dressed them up with witch hats, etc. I did watch the first of the whole thing. I realized it wasn't as bad as I portrayed it to be. There IS a difference if you believe, IMO. My sister and her family are Christians, and know that this is just fun. They do NOT believe in this occult. The video IS alarming! I think when you are a person with little faith, faced with boredom, etc, this could be just the turn on that they needed. Hmmm....I will send the link to my sister and see what she says since she is all into it. |
|
PINKY ..."In the latter days you will understand it perfectly." Jeremiah 23:20b | |
|
|
|
| Lazarusty | Jul 26 2008, 05:30 AM Post #3 |
|
Advanced Member
|
To the defiled all things are defiled, but to the pure all things are pure.
Edited by Lazarusty, Jul 26 2008, 05:30 AM.
|
| Check out my Wild Speculations thread! | |
|
|
|
| Pamelot | Jul 26 2008, 02:23 PM Post #4 |
Member
|
Lazarusty  I thoroughly enjoy the Harry Potter books and movies, and don't see any harm in them. It's fantasy, no more nor less than any Disney "Cinderella" movie, any fairy tale and, IMO, FAR less harmful than the whole Santa Claus myth that even sincere Christian parents spare no effort in convincing their children is oh-so-real. Not as off-topic as it might seem; please bear with me: I was traumatized at ten by learning from an eight year old in my Sunday School class that Santa was all made up. I fought him hard, knowing beyond any doubt that my parents would never lie to me and was devastated when I found out that they had, and for no good reason, that I could see. It was the first time that I recall feeling physically as if my heart had been ripped out; that completely empty feeling that people get when someone close to them passes away. I've forgiven them, long ago, but still don't see the reasoning for the whole charade. Nothing would have changed except some of the tags on the presents. That little fantasy ruined our relationship and, as my mother laments, I never talked to them about anything, from about the age of ten, which literally changed the course of my life. Even though I've noted the "coincidence" in timing to her, several times, she still maintains that Santa had nothing to do with my suddenly "clamming up" at ten, and sees it as a harmless fantasy, exactly like a Cinderella fairy tale. Now, to me, THAT can do immeasurably more permanent harm to a child than a book or a movie, after which the child puts on a pilowcase "cape" and waves a stick around, for the next week. Children can separate fantasy from reality and know when they're pretending; gosh, even I've been to a couple of the midnight HP book releases with my adult daughter, both of us wearing a cape and carrying a little wooden wand. It's just fun and doesn't mean that I love the Lord any less. I doubt if God feels threatened by Harry Potter.  God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind. - II Tim. 1:7 I know that's out of the context of the chapter, but I truly believe that it's true of all things. We are to fear nothing. Our fears are what give Satan any illusion of power that he has. The fact that entire churches and entire religions are running around, frantically trying to convince people that the HP series is evil, makes me wonder where their faith is based.  
|
|
A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; but it shall not come nigh thee. Only with thine eyes shalt thou behold and see the reward of the wicked. ~ Psalms 91: 7 & 8 | |
|
|
|
| Shershalom | Jul 26 2008, 03:20 PM Post #5 |
Advanced Member
|
Did Christian parents of years gone by condemn the well-beloved movie and book series "Wizard of Oz'? |
|
SherShalom "Blessed is HE that comes in the NAME of the LORD." MATTHEW 23:39 | |
|
|
|
| Pamelot | Jul 26 2008, 04:01 PM Post #6 |
|
Member
|
 Now, there's a scary movie! 
|
|
A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; but it shall not come nigh thee. Only with thine eyes shalt thou behold and see the reward of the wicked. ~ Psalms 91: 7 & 8 | |
|
|
|
| kgreen20 | Jul 26 2008, 04:05 PM Post #7 |
Advanced Member
|
I can't speak for Christians of years past, but I never have. |
|
|
|
| leehclark | Aug 5 2008, 07:36 PM Post #8 |
|
Newbie
|
Absolutely. It's witchcraft. Avoid it like the plague. |
|
|
|
| twinkle | Aug 5 2008, 07:58 PM Post #9 |
|
Advanced Member
|
Why would we want our children feeding their minds with witchcraft when God condemns it? |
|
|
|
| Dave-BNBIH | Aug 8 2008, 02:57 AM Post #10 |
Advanced Member
|
Hello, All:-) In my opinion and experience, which is by no means limited to a sterilized environment such as many denominations and cults DEMAND; Harry Potter, The Golden Compass, The Spiderwick Chronicles, The Mummy series[including Scorpion King I & II], Dragon Wars, and others of the same genre can be easily recognized by anyone[or should be] as FANTASY/FICTION. As Pamelot stated, kids know the difference between reality and make-believe, and will go to Jesus much more quickly than any adult; and will be damaged much more deeply by the BLATANT LIES concerning Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny than by reading/watching these stories. Just as the DaVinci Code is a 'very good yarn'{as one Bible scholar stated}; so are these tales. To point out some others: Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer, Frosty the Snowman, Pinochio, Hansel and Gretal, etc... I just have never understood just why parents INSIST on continuing the LIES concerning "Jolly ole St. Nick", and "Eoster Bunny action"??? I remember[just like many do{if they will be truthful}] the let-down on discovering that Santa was just Mother and Daddy, Aunts and Uncles sneaking around to perpetrate this FRAUD!! Christians all, church goers for the most part; Jesus lovers all!! WHY LIE TO YOUR CHILDREN??? And then when someone questions this 'tradition',,they get all bent out of shape and want to fight about it; cling to it; cherish it; nourish it; and make absolutely sure that their offspring perpetrate the same LIES to their grandchildren. Go figure:-( Oh,,Pamelot,,do not feel like the Lone Ranger, for the worst nightmare I ever had as a child was caused by the Wizard of Oz:-) 'Raise up your children in the way that they should go, and when they are old they will not depart from it.'{Paraphrase mine} I must state here that the Lord has ALLOWED me to answer this post[as He did with SevenThunders question on tongues], but other than this has me on 'communications blackout'[so to speak]. These are my opinions on this subject:-) |
|
Selah! Shalom! MYITAUT! Beloved Noble Bright/Illustrious House Servant of the Most High God of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob. Father and God of our Savior, Lord, and Great High Priest, Jesus of Nazareth:-) | |
|
|
|
| dinosaur | Aug 8 2008, 08:53 AM Post #11 |
|
Advanced Member
|
Parents willingly entertain this spirit of deception, knowing it allows them to have greater control over their children's behavior with the implied "threat" that Santa Claus will not bring them material gifts if they misbehave. My mother used this worldly myth as a controlling mechanism as is common in America, but in another case of deception she lied to me about something that affected me more than the Santa Claus ruse. While very young, looking through an issue of LIFE magazine, I encountered a photo of a pregnant woman giving birth to a child, surrounded by hospital staff. I remember rushing into the room where my mother was and excitedly declaring my revelation that I knew where babies came from while simultaneously pointing directly to the pregnant woman's vaginal area. Much to my surprise, my mother forcefully told me, "No", it was not true. I was bewildered by her response, which introduced profound confusion to my impressionable mind. Years later I cannot understand why she deliberately lied to me, but it has in part ruined any trust I have in her words. |
|
|
|
| twinkle | Aug 8 2008, 12:23 PM Post #12 |
|
Advanced Member
|
“Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.” Phil 4:8 When you’re reading whole books glorifying things that God hates what are you and you’re kids thinking about and meditating on? Yes the stories are fantasies but does that make it okay? Is not sorcery real? Is not witchcraft real? Are wizard’s real (male witches)? Why read stories where the good guy is striving to be a “good” wizard whose power doesn’t come from God but from the occult? Something that God hates. What about fantasies centered on other sins? How about homosexuality instead of witchcraft? Should we let our kids read a fantasy about homosexuals and them engaging in homosexual acts? It just doesn’t make sense to me. And when it comes to Santa, Easter Bunny, tooth fairy, etc, of course you shouldn’t lie to your kids and tell them that these things are real. I can’t understand why Christian parents think that God thinks its okay to lie to your kids. Believe me; you won’t be popular with other parents or even your own family when you don’t lie to your kids about Santa et al. Isn’t better though to obey God rather than men? I would rather my four year old to now miss out on some “Santa fun” than later, when she finds out the truth of Santa, to also question to reality of God. I would also hate for her to think of me as a hypocrite since I teach her that she shouldn’t lie and God says “thou shalt not lie”. |
|
|
|
| Etnep | Aug 14 2008, 05:00 PM Post #13 |
|
Member
|
there is also some good info here as well http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/hpmain.html http://www.lasttrumpetministries.org/tracts/tract7.html this site also has a great newsletter that he puts out at the start of every month you can call it fun and games if you want to but is it really Harry Potter? What Does God Have To Say? I am writing this urgent message because I was once a witch. I lived by the stars as an astrologer and numerologist casting horoscopes and spells. I lived in the mysterious and shadowy realm of the occult. By means of spells and magic, I was able to invoke the powers of the "controlling unknown" and fly upon the night winds transcending the astral plane. Halloween was my favorite time of the year and I was intrigued and absorbed in the realm of Wiccan witchcraft. All of this was happening in the decade of the 1960’s when witchcraft was just starting to come out of the broom closet. It was during that decade of the 1960’s, in the year 1966, that a woman named J.K. Rowling was born. This is the woman who has captivated the world in this year of 2000 with four books known as the "Harry Potter Series." These books are orientational and instructional manuals of witchcraft woven into the format of entertainment. These four books by J.K. Rowling teach witchcraft! I know this because I was once very much a part of that world. Witchcraft was very different in the 1960’s. There were a lot fewer witches, and the craft was far more secretive. At the end of that spiritually troubled decade, I was miraculously saved by the power of Jesus Christ and His saving blood. I was also delivered from every evil spirit that lived in me and was set free. However, as I began to attend fundamental Christian churches, I realized that even there witchcraft had left its mark. Pagan holidays and sabats were celebrated as "Christian holidays." As time went on, I watched the so-called "Christian" churches compromising and unifying. I also watched with amazement as teachings from Eastern religions and "New Age" doctrine began to captivate congregations. It was a satanic set-up, and I saw it coming. Illuministic conspirators were bringing forth a one-world religion with a cleverly concealed element of occultism interwoven in its teachings. In order to succeed in bringing witchcraft to the world and thus complete satanic control, an entire generation would have to be induced and taught to think like witches, talk like witches, dress like witches, and act like witches. The occult songs of the 1960’s launched the Luciferian project of capturing the minds of an entire generation. In the song "Sound Of Silence" by Paul Simon and Art Garfunkel, we were told of seeds that were left while an entire generation was sleeping, and that the "vision that was planted in my brain still remains." Now it is the year 2000. All of the foundations for occultism and witchcraft are in place. The Illuminists have to move quickly, because time is running out. It was the Communist revolutionary Lenin who said, "Give me one generation of youth, and I will transform the entire world." Now an entire generation of youth has been given to a woman named J.K. Rowling and her four books on witchcraft, known as the Harry Potter Series. As a former witch, I can speak with authority when I say that I have examined the works of Rowling and that the Harry Potter books are training manuals for the occult. Untold millions of young people are being taught to think, speak, dress and act like witches by filling their heads with the contents of these books. Children are obsessed with the Harry Potter books that they have left television and video games to read these witchcraft manuals. The first book of the series, entitled "Harry Potter and the Sorcerer’s Stone", finds the orphan, Harry Potter, embarking into a new realm when he is taken to "Hogwart’s School of Witchcraft and Wizardry." At this occult school, Harry Potter learns how to obtain and use witchcraft equipment. Harry also learns a new vocabulary, including words such as "Azkaban", "Circe", "Draco", "Erised", "Hermes", and "Slytherin"; all of which are names of real devils or demons. These are not characters of fiction! How serious is this? By reading these materials, many millions of young people are learning how to work with demon spirits. They are getting to know them by name. Vast numbers of children professing to be Christians are also filling their hearts and minds, while willingly ignorant parents look the other way. The titles of the books should be warning enough to make us realize how satanic and anti-christ these books are. The afore mentioned title of the first book, "Harry Potter and the Sorcerer’s Stone", was a real give away. The second book was called "Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets", while the third book was entitled "Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban." Sadly enough, this blatant witchcraft has been endorsed by well-known and respected "Christian" leaders, such as Dr. James Dobson and Chuck Colson, who have proven themselves to be modern day Judas Iscariots. Nothing could be more obvious than that Harry Potter books are pure witchcraft and of the devil. The "Christian" leaders, however, defend them by saying that good magic always wins and overcomes evil magic. This is the oldest con game ever hatched out of hell. As a real witch, I learned about the two sides of "the force." Apparently, so do many "Christian" leaders. When real witches have sabats and esbats and meet as a coven, they greet each other by saying "Blessed be", and when they part, they say "The Force be with you." Both sides of this "Force" are Satan. It is not a good side of the force that overcomes the bad side of the force, but rather it’s the blood of Jesus Christ that destroys both supposed sides of the satanic "Force." High level witches believe that there are seven satanic princes and that the seventh, which is assigned to Christians, has no name. In coven meetings, he is called "the nameless one." In the Harry Potter books, there is a character called "Voldemort." The pronunciation guide says of this being "He who must not be named." On July 8 at midnight, bookstores everywhere were stormed by millions of children to obtain the latest and fourth book of the series known as "Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire." These books were taken into homes everywhere with a real evil spirit following each copy to curse those homes. July 8th was also the 18th day (three sixes in numerology) from the witches’ sabat of midsummer. July 8th was also the 13th day from the signing of the United Religions Charter in San Francisco. Now we have learned that the public school system is planning to use the magic of Harry Potter in the classrooms making the public schools centers of witchcraft training. What does God have to say about such books as the Harry Potter series? In the Bible in the book of Acts, we read the following in the 19th chapter, verses 18 – 20: "And many that believed came, and confessed, and shewed their deeds. Many of them also which used curious arts brought their books together and burned them before all men: and they counted the price of them, and found it fifty thousand pieces of silver. So mightily grew the Word of God and prevailed." As parents, we will answer to God if we allow our children to read witchcraft books. The Word of God will prevail mightily in your life only if such things of Satan are destroyed. This tract has been prayed over, and I hope it has helped you. If we may be of further assistance, please contact us. Pastor David J. Meyer Published by: Last Trumpet Ministries International PO Box 806 Beaver Dam, WI 53916 |
|
|
|
| Final Call | Aug 15 2008, 01:11 AM Post #14 |
|
Advanced Member
|
And a BIG AND RESOUNDING AMEN to the above post. Harry potter is DEADLY! Dabble at your own peril...and if you have children and want to destroy their souls....take them to the harry potter movies and buy them the books. Satan will LOVE you for it. |
|
|
|
| 1 user reading this topic (1 Guest and 0 Anonymous) | |
| « Previous Topic · General Discussions · Next Topic » |
8:17 AM Nov 20