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| LoisFaith2000 | Jul 23 2008, 09:49 PM Post #1 |
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This was sent to me! Need feedback..... My family has a vacation coming up in August. There are four members to my immediate family. Here is the dream: I was driving a car to the airport with two other (surely saved) members of the family. The last member of the family was following behind in another car. As I was driving over a bridge/ramp towards the airport, the car kept going, but the three of us turned into sprinkles, like sparkling electric confetti and it was the most exhilerating feeling I had ever had (too awesome to describe). I looked at my body as it was changing and I thought "what is happening?" Then I realized that what was going on was the rapture! I was sooo excited, until I realized that one of my loved ones was not with us.... Then the dream ended... it was the best and the worst dream all at the same time. It gave me a sense of urgency for that family member's salvation like never before. The vacation is coming up.... I am a bit nervous about it.... Before the dream, I thought of the rapture in spiritual terms, now I am open to more lteral interpratation about the references in the Bible to the event (although it is never really called a rapture in the Bible). |
  
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| belinda | Jul 23 2008, 11:12 PM Post #2 |
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What a cool dream Lois, but I can certainly understand your concern about the "loved one" that was missing from this transformation. It might mean that this person may appear to be a Christian but is lacking in his/her true commitment to Jesus as Lord and Savior. I know people who pay lip service, or are pew warmers, but have not truly accepted Christ.... they simply go along for the ride.... Maybe before this August vacation, some candid dialog about what everyone believes in terms of faith may be in order...... this could be a chance to witness before they are called home to be with the Lord.....  Edited by belinda, Jul 23 2008, 11:12 PM.
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| kgreen20 | Jul 23 2008, 11:24 PM Post #3 |
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Just remember that the Trinity is not called the Trinity in the Bible, either. Yet, there can be no doubt that God is three Persons in one God. The word "Rapture" is not in the Bible, but the event the name describes is. If this close relative of yours is counting on church attendance, good works, saved parents, etc., to get him into Heaven, he's in for a rude awakening. In fact, he will be in for one, when the trumpet blows. Only those of us who have accepted Jesus' free gift of salvation will be qualified to go, because His blood covers us and makes us qualified. If your relative is without that covering, he will surely be left behind. Have you put together a left-behind packet for that relative and for any others you think might be lost? If not, now would be a good time to do so. I have one for my loved ones, which I keep in my bedroom. Kathy G. P.S. Oops! I failed to notice the "sent to me." Obviously, this was not your dream, was it? Whoever had the dream sent it to you. Which I could pull it up! For some reason, the link won't come up for me. Anyway, you could tell this person what Belinda and I told you. Hopefully, it'll help! Edited by kgreen20, Jul 23 2008, 11:29 PM.
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| Final Call | Jul 25 2008, 07:37 AM Post #4 |
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What you saw was NOT the "Rapture" Kathy...it was something far far better. Be ready. |
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| kgreen20 | Jul 25 2008, 09:54 AM Post #5 |
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LOL! I didn't see anything. I was just responding to the OP. LoisFaith2000 didn't see anything, either--she was posting what someone sent her. Edited by kgreen20, Jul 25 2008, 09:55 AM.
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| Shershalom | Jul 25 2008, 10:08 AM Post #6 |
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FC ~ What could possibly be "better" than to BE WITH THE LORD ??? "Let not your heart be troubled; you believe in God, believe alsi in Me. In My Father's house are many dwellings; if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I WILL COME AGAIN and RECEIVE YOU to MYSELF; that where I am, there you may be also." John 14:1-3 |
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SherShalom "Blessed is HE that comes in the NAME of the LORD." MATTHEW 23:39 | |
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| Pinky1441 | Jul 25 2008, 10:29 AM Post #7 |
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Hmmm that IS interesting isn't it! I don't have anything to comment on it, but will be watching to see others post here. Thanks for bringing it here! |
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| kgreen20 | Jul 25 2008, 11:52 AM Post #8 |
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My sentiments exactly. Final Call, there is nothing better than receiving our new bodies and being caught up to meet Jesus in the air. Absolutely nothing on this earth can hold a candle to that. Certainly, the horrors of the Tribulation can't. Edited by kgreen20, Jul 25 2008, 11:52 AM.
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| Final Call | Jul 26 2008, 02:28 AM Post #9 |
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You would be very surprised just WHAT could be better..VERY VERY surprised indeed. What is coming will blow your minds..and the LAST thing on your minds will be the raprture because what you will be seeing and experincing will far out weigh just "Getting out of here". You WILL be very glad you did not..for what lies just ahead for the saints is so wonderfully amazing that you will be GLAD you are still here. I am not going to say too much because I only know a small part of whats ahead..and even THAT little bit is still amazing me. What is about to be revealed to the world will once and for ALL settle the entire rapture debate..and for that matter..ALL DOCTRINAL DEBATES!!..of any sort. ALL will KNOW...what is what and ALL will take a side once and for all...light..or darkness. If you are only and ever just thinking "Rapture"..your thinking is too small...God Himself is about to blow the entire worlds mind. Wait and see. |
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| Lazarusty | Jul 26 2008, 04:40 AM Post #10 |
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If I have it right, it is about having the best of both worlds so to speak - on Earth, reaping in the harvest followed by persecution under the antichrist, and at the same time having direct access and regularly getting caught up into (mini-raptures) heaven for instructions and power. On top of that, those who are not destined for matyrdom, but survive the tribulation, will then be part of the millenium reign with Jesus, helping in restoration and repopulation of the Earth. Also, see http://all-things-new.net/topic/6506024/ post #50 for my thoughts on the millenium itself. Am I close to the mark, FC? Edited by Lazarusty, Jul 26 2008, 04:41 AM.
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| Final Call | Jul 26 2008, 04:58 AM Post #11 |
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SPOT ON LAZ!! Its going to be AMAZING..and worth sticking around for. MORE than just a "Rapture"...OH SO MUCH MORE!!! NEVER limit God. |
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| ursinforgiven | Jul 26 2008, 05:20 AM Post #12 |
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Final call, I don't really understand what you are trying to say, Could you explain clearly? I'm kinda slow. |
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| Lazarusty | Jul 26 2008, 05:32 AM Post #13 |
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God once promised me I was going to plug into the internet of heaven. What do you think that means? |
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| Shershalom | Jul 26 2008, 08:17 AM Post #14 |
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Final Call ~ So what is with all these "teasers" as to what is coming that you have placed around this forum? This "wait and see", "gonna be better", "blow your minds" attitude does not produce maturity and hope - at least in me. Feel free to speak plainly and simply about what you see coming and when. No fancy elaborations are needed, really. Scriptural backup is much appreciated as well. Thanks for clarifying. |
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| nightbird | Jul 26 2008, 09:31 AM Post #15 |
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Jude 1:3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.  On another thread a similar problem occured, and in a private email from Keith I challenged him to respond with sound scripture for his questionable statements; this is the email from him to me; and my response. 7/19/08 Hello all, I haven't shared anything the last few days. What I did share here and on the ATN site generated quite a few comments? What are your reactions after you have prayed (be honest) and do you want to hear anything else that I hear? I have always said that all comments good and bad are welcome. We have barely scratched the surface. Keith My response: 7/20/08 Hi Keith, In response to your email, I have a few concerns. Below is a quote from w8n4him on ATN forum: "me too! I have said many times over the years, I should have been dead.....the Lord obviously is not done with me; however, i do think that FC and Keith are speaking on a more supernatural level.......which while I don't see scripture to back it up.....agree that not EVERYthing is in the scriptures. Everything we need for salvation is, but not everyTHING is......so it could be"(quote) This kind of statement is troubling. If we get out beyond the Word of God regarding ANY experience, no matter how spectacular it may be, we have gone to far. God Almighty has placed His Word above HIS NAME! I did not see anything posted by you or Final Call to make this clear for all who would read this. I have had many dreams, visions, and experiences from the Lord; journals full of recorded experiences; and answers and confirmations recorded along with them. However, I've been VERY carefull to check myself out with scripture, and wait to see the results and fulfillment of the experiences I've had. We must not depend on experiences themselves as proof of whether they are from God; we will open ourselves to deception every time if we do. Second; are you submitted to a body of believer's, and a pastor? I am interested in hearing more; but as I've stated before, I regard the bible as the final authority on every subject. Lorna Since this correspondence, I've heard nothing more from Keith. This tells me a great deal. I'm challenging Finall Call in the same manner.
What scriptures can you give to proove these claims? I agree with Shershalom, there is no need for these vague claims, and mysterious elaborations. God does not shroud the truth in darkness; in Him there is NO DARKNESS at all. And I would be interested to know if you are fellowshipping in a local body of believer's, and submitted to a pastor and accountable to other's over you. |
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| 7SevenThunders7 | Jul 26 2008, 10:54 AM Post #16 |
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Way to test the spirits Shershalom and nightbird! God wants us to test the spirits, "Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world." ~1 John 4:1 He will not be angry at us if we do not accept everything we hear with total faith, we are instructed to test the spirits, and I find that false spirits do not like to be tested and will react by withdrawing from any questions or concerns we may have over their prophecies. So what if they are offended? Are we afraid to offend the spirit of Pride? Any form of ego showing and I'm over them fast. God does not place the gift of prophecy with a person who has a huge ego that is larger than the Living Word; this is a red flag to look for. Rather, the Lord places the spirit of prophecy with a person who is broken, contrite and submitted to the Lord for every move he makes. Anther thing that troubles me. If we hear from the Lord, why do we need another prophet telling us what the Lord says? Why don't we just take our concerns to the Lord in prayer rather than ask a man? After having done so, if a prophet says something that troubles us, and the Lord clearly answers us that he is wrong, than we can rest assured and not worry ourselves over the matter any further and just trust in the Lord alone. "When he has brought out all his own, he goes on ahead of them, and his sheep follow him because they know his voice." ~John 10:4 "My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me." ~John 10:27 ~7Seven |
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| METHUSELAH | Jul 26 2008, 03:36 PM Post #17 |
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It's been a week since I emailed a few specific questions to Keith (at his request) and like several others who have posted during the week have heard 'bupkis' in terms of a reply. Keith did say on the main thread that he felt that details and current events were a drag (paraphrase) on his ministry and that he'd much rather be discussing more"spiritual" matters. That may be the reason no one has heard from him. Perhaps he just won't deal with the near future and specific questions and has moved on to greener and dimmer pastures...? Secret knowledge is limited to those who don't ask pedestrian questions?  TL |
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| nightbird | Jul 26 2008, 04:33 PM Post #18 |
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Yup.......  I'd say that would be the case. 
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| belinda | Jul 26 2008, 05:20 PM Post #19 |
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Brethren, Thank you for speaking your concerns..... it has grieved me deeply about these same issues. Please do not listen and follow every prophecy or so called prophet that frequent any board. Test those spirits!! and keep that bible open! The Word of God has to be our firm foundation. I am very glad for everyone's reply. AMEN TO THESE SCRIPTURES!! "When he has brought out all his own, he goes on ahead of them, and his sheep follow him because they know his voice." ~John 10:4 "My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me." ~John 10:27 "Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world." ~1 John 4:1 |
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| Final Call | Jul 26 2008, 07:49 PM Post #20 |
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Ok I will provide solid scripture for what lies ahead..but I cannot do it today because I am with my daughters and will be out all day. Tomorrow if I am not working I will provide all the scriptures you need to see what is going to take place. Its already there under all your noses really...but most of you are so used to being spoon fed by someone else and listening to others opinions all the time very few of you actually TAKE your questions to the Lord and ask HIM..what I have been encouraging you all to do all along. Some of you have..and have seen what I am talking about regarding the answers..and once you ask with an open heart and are willing to keep your own opinions OUT of it..God will give you the answer..and suddenly everything just falls into place. But..for those unwilling to surrender their hard held opinions..which is really pride at its core...the truth will make litle or no difference to them....some will not heed because they still want to cling so hard to their own mindsets and church taught "Beliefs"..instead of actuall believing what THE WORD OF GOD ACTUALLY SAYS IN CONTEXT. The time coming is a time of the Spirit of TRUTH...there will be NO MORE LIES..and no more false doctrines..ALL will be cleared up. The book has been sealed until recently...but now the time is here..the time of the end..for the truth to be known to all in order to give the WHOLE WORLD a fair and even chance to choose a side without all the false cults and religions clouding the issue. The WISE will understand..remember that part? ARE you wise in your OWN eyes?..or are you going to let GODS wisdom fill you...and let you SEE the truth? |
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