MoreofHim

Jul 15 2008, 07:00 PM

Final Call...

The glory is due to Christ, not us. There is a scene in Revelations of the elders throwing their crowns at His feet, giving Him honor and glory. These are obviously crowns that these saints have earned. But they cast them to His feet. I am troubled by your message of self-seeking glory. That is not of God. The heart is not right in that message. Jesus came to only give glory to the Father. He never spoke anything but the Father's will. The glory belongs to God.

Nor is the pursuit of Power of God.

The reward He is bringing is REDEMPTION of these sin-laden bodies. We will be given incorruptible bodies. When we see Him, we will be like Him. That is the reward that He brings with Him.

Shershalom

Jul 15 2008, 08:09 PM

Final Call ~
Did the LORD speak to you of or can you relate any part of your vision(s) to a particular passage or passages of Scriptures? Thanks.

SpiritIsWilling

Jul 15 2008, 09:03 PM

And don't forget to test the spirit of the one revealing themselves to you. These are the last days and deception is running high and rampant these days.

Final Call

Jul 15 2008, 09:39 PM

Some words of wisdom from todays devotional.

And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Son may bring glory to the Father. You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it (John 14:13-14).

These verses are an amazing Promise! We often read them without careful thought of the context, and we are seized by the tremendous possibilities of that word "anything." And shallow Christians leap up and say, "What a promise! I can have that new car I've always wanted." But James reminds us: "When you ask, you do not receive, because you ask with wrong motives, that you may spend what you get on your pleasures"(James 4:3).

There is an important limitation to this promise: "in my name"? Somehow again, in a superficial approach to these ideas of Scripture, some think they have fulfilled this when they tack on at the end of a prayer, "This we ask in Jesus' name," as a kind of magic formula, like rubbing Aladdin's lamp so that the "genie" of God will suddenly appear and do all that we ask!

I have no objection to people adding these words to their prayers. But there are many prayers with those words tacked onto the end that are not prayed in Jesus' name at all. What, then, does "in Jesus' name" mean? I had thought that praying in Jesus' name meant praying for the things He wants accomplished. And it does mean that. But I thought you could pray to prevent certain things and to attain others and that we had an ability somehow to control the process by which these things come to pass. I have learned that this is not the case. "In Jesus' name" means to pray in His place. To pray in Jesus' name means to stand in Jesus' place. And where was Jesus standing when He said these words? Facing the cross. Facing the end, the apparent collapse and failure of all of His work and His entire program.

But He knew that beyond the cross lay the resurrection and that there could never be that new beginning if there were not first an end of all that the others saw and hoped for. If these disciples were praying for anything, they were praying that somehow He would not have to go to the cross. But Jesus knew that it had to be. And to pray in Jesus' name means that you accept the process of God, the process by which He brings matters (often) to utter collapse. But that is not the end of the story! Beyond it is a resurrection and a new beginning of such different quality that the mind moves into an ecstasy of joy in contemplating it. That is what it means to pray in Jesus' name.

That is why it often seems as though God waits until the very last moment to answer our prayer. That is why He doesn't stop the process long before the heartache and pain come but allows it to go on into death--and out of the death comes resurrection. And to pray in Jesus' name means that you consent to that process and that you are aware that prayer is not merely a shield to prevent things from happening. Prayer is also a commitment to undergo the end and the collapse and the failure. But that is never the end of the story. It is only out of death that life comes.

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That is why it often seems as though God waits until the very last moment to answer our prayer. That is why He doesn't stop the process long before the heartache and pain come but allows it to go on into death--and out of the death comes resurrection. And to pray in Jesus' name means that you consent to that process and that you are aware that prayer is not merely a shield to prevent things from happening. Prayer is also a commitment to undergo the end and the collapse and the failure. But that is never the end of the story. It is only out of death that life comes.

teamldr7

Jul 15 2008, 07:28 PM

Final Call,

Would love to trade notes with you of some much heavier topics.

Keith

genesis6.8.9@gmail.com

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Dave says:
I think one big crash or a natural disaster or anything along those lines could send things spiraling

Philip says:
yeah - like California falling into the Ocean

Philip says:
I think we are going to have a major Earth Quake out west soon

Philip says:
and there will be no warning

Dave says:
where do you get that idea

Dave says:
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Philip says:
its called intuition

Philip says:
my gutt

Philip says:
it came to me like most things God tells me

Dave says:
well, can I share something freaky that you say that...

Philip says:
sure

Philip says:
nothing freaks me out any more

Dave says:
I read prophecy boards from time to time

Dave says:
every now and then one catches my attention

Dave says:
I "watch" like the Bible says to

Dave says:
in my own little way.

Dave says:
I have zero prophetic ability of course

Philip says:
ok

Dave says:
Here is a snippet of what he has said:

Dave says:
This morning the Lord was very clear of the great evil that resides in California etc. Legal homosexual marriage was just one of the many evils mentioned by the Lord. He said that with a cancerous tumor, the doctors cut out every cell that could be damaged (if possible) to prevent the further spread of any cancer. The Lord said that every single square inch of California is a cancerous tumor and

Dave says:
has to be cut out. So, He intends to cut off the entire state of California! There will be an earthquake of such a great magnitude that all of California will be cut off from the continental USA and will turn upside down in the Pacific Ocean and every soul will perish. There will be no warning!

Dave says:
I just found it interesting that you say that

Dave says:
after I read that.

Philip says:
this is exactly what came to mind to me

Philip says:
that God would throw the state into the ocean because of the stand they have taken