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| Topic Started: Jul 11 2008, 04:34 PM (12,790 Views) | |
| teamldr7 | Nov 15 2008, 12:55 AM Post #241 |
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Hello all, I have been careful in what I have been writing, to “say” that this is what I believe and not that the Lord said anything. That way if what I am saying is just a tiny bit different (or a lot different) from what happens, I won’t be labeled a false prophet. I think most of you will understand this. I haven’t communicated well enough, in what I wanted to say. That is the problem with the written word – sometimes you just can’t find the right words to express what you think. You don’t realize this till you read the responses and know that you should have said it differently. That is why I prefer the phone – you get instant feedback to what you said. Let me try again. For some time now, I have been “hearing” and “sensing” that some HUGE, evil event or series of events was imminent. When the Lord communicates with us, I believe it is sometimes (not all of the time) hard for Him to express time and timing that we can understand. Sometimes it is crystal clear and other times it is a little murky. I believe that I have been “hearing” for some time now, that there is a severe war in the Heavenlies and that at any moment, it is going to be manifested here on this Earth. I believe that “things” happen first in the Heavenlies before we see the manifestation of it here on Earth. I believe that our enemy, Satan, will take his legions of demons and all of those on earth that listen to him (and follow him – that is not the average person – that is the person that deeply is committed to the enemy, like we are to the Lord) and he will spew forth a series of events that will make 9-11 seem like a minor event. I am not sure if this is a series of terror attacks or something similar – it almost “seems” like it will be something that can be stopped (as opposed to a tsunami or natural event). It will occur in more than one place and is not necessarily confined to the USA. I have no reason to believe it is a nuclear attack but something very well orchestrated/planned out to cause as much death and destruction as possible. The events I mentioned the first time (9-11, the tsunami, Columbine, the saran gas attacks and the constant suicide bombings) are specific examples that I “heard” – they are somehow representative (in some respect) of what the enemy is planning. I do know that it involves a lot of death and destruction – I “see” a lot of dead and dying people. The very good news is that none of this is a surprise to our Lord who has everything under control. There is no reason to give in to fear – there is nothing humanly possible that we can do to stop this. I know prayer changes things, but in this case, I don’t think prayer will change what is going to happen. I believe that what will happen is planned out from the Lord’s point of view – just like Pharaoh and his army chasing the Israelites. The Lord hardened the heart of Pharaoh repeatedly so that he could demonstrate His power. I believe the same thing is going to happen here. The Lord is going to demonstrate His power immediately after the enemy does his evil schemes. I believe that the Lord is going to show the whole world that He is GOD – in a way that leaves no room for doubt (I will leave it at that). I believe that the world will be a completely different place (in one respect) from what it is now. I can’t escape the “sense” of immediacy. I would not be surprised if it happens tonight or tomorrow or the next day etc. I am prepared for there to be time delay since it has never happened the way I think it will timing wise. I just can’t shake the sense that it can be NOW as opposed to the distant future. We will see. I do believe that when this happens, there will be no doubt in any of our minds what I am talking about. For once, “someone” will have gotten it right – will have hit the nail completely on its head (I know that this is an exaggeration, but you get my point). How many times have I read it here at ATN, when someone said that one of us (Final Call, myself and others) will eventually get it right (especially in the timing respect). I mean no disrespect to any of you, who have never thought that or written that or even if you have said it. I hope that this explains what I tried to say the first time. My apologies if I have offended anyone with my point of view etc. You are welcome to email me at any point for clarification or to talk etc. Keith Genesis6.8.9@gmail.com |
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| ThomasCrow | Nov 15 2008, 01:37 AM Post #242 |
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first let me clarify, i wasn't calling anyone in this forum out when i wrote the word 'we'. in general, i believe too many of us are in the belief Jesus will take us before all the 'bad' begins. i don't believe this is the case and i don't believe it is as near as 'we' want it to be. i'm not crazy about the idea of being around here for sometime, but it will be His will not mine. short of any premature exits, we will see 2012. whether there is an election or not we will have to wait. i really doubt there will be but many said there wouldn't be on this year. whether it is a north american union, martial law or whatever event that occurs things are gonna get screwy. i believe keith said it best. what he spoke has been resonating with me for sometime; i've had much the same thoughts about what is about to occur. |
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| domino | Nov 15 2008, 07:22 PM Post #243 |
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I agree. We MUST stay strong in the Lord! |
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| locboxx | Nov 15 2008, 08:05 PM Post #244 |
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i kinda feel that too. its like: event + wait = God's help |
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| MoreofHim | Nov 16 2008, 10:48 AM Post #245 |
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Is God using Radical Islam to bring judgment on America? Wake up... gross darkness has covered the earth and the people (Isaiah 60:2). |
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| Ruth | Nov 16 2008, 10:57 AM Post #246 |
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MooroefHim, did God tell you this? |
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| Ruth | Nov 16 2008, 11:00 AM Post #247 |
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MoreofHim, sorry I spelled your name wrong, I am only on my first cup of coffee.
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| MoreofHim | Nov 16 2008, 11:02 AM Post #248 |
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Yes, through the revelation of His Holy word, through the lamp of the Spirit, and through an open vision. |
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| teamldr7 | Nov 16 2008, 11:59 AM Post #249 |
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Is God using Radical Islam to bring judgment on America? Wake up... gross darkness has covered the earth and the people (Isaiah 60:2). I also strongly believe that what is going to happen will come directly through radicals, who follow the more strict guidelines and writings of Islam. We should look at them as our counterparts - we are deeply committed to Christ and His goals and they are deeply committed to Islam and its goals. Our endeavors please the Lord and theirs please the enemy. I strongly sense (my feelings or senses) that what is going to happen is more than likely going to be done by "radicals" that hate everything we (the USA and more civilized countries) do and stand for. I have not "heard" any specific locations or places that are going to be attacked. I have a sense of the magnitude, by taking all of the events I posted and multiplying by 40, to reach a very large number of dead and dying. There were over 225,000 dead in the tsunami alone and multiply that one event by 40 gives us a large number of dead (9,000,000) - not counting the injured. Every time I go in prayer and this topic comes up, I get a strong sense of dread and evil as to what is being planned. I then rejoice when the Lord (as I believe it to be Him sharing with me) shares what He is going to do to counter all of this. I also believe that this is the catalyst to bring about change in the world as we know it. There will most definitely be outrage at what is going to happen and there will be a definitive backlash for those (and their kind) who caused all of this. I also believe that this will start a "revival" or outpouring of the Holy Spirit that will usher in what we all have been waiting for. These are just some of my thoughts. All errors belong to me. Keith |
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| ThomasCrow | Nov 16 2008, 12:05 PM Post #250 |
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this is very true. additionally, it is where your spirit is prior to an event. where you have placed yourself; i'm not speaking of physical location. if one is beside themselves in fear and not in faith..well you sort of get where i'm going. if someone else can say it better please do. when i lived in the dallas/ft worth area, i knew if something occured i was staying put, there was no way i could get out of town. with hurricane rita, i saw the highways jammed full, both north and southbound lanes all running north, and going no where. many people died on a simple drive. |
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| teamldr7 | Nov 16 2008, 12:17 PM Post #251 |
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this is very true. additionally, it is where your spirit is prior to an event. where you have placed yourself; i'm not speaking of physical location. if one is beside themselves in fear and not in faith..well you sort of get where i'm going. if someone else can say it better please do. God is always looking at the condition of your heart. He knows that we live in flesh and that we sin. He is looking at our hearts - are our hearts focused on Him and Him alone. Fear is sin and not pleasing to God. He wants us to give our fears, our anxieties, to Him. Allow Him to be in charge - to be God in our lives. Allow God to be in control as much as possible. Allow Him to position each of us where He wants us. Be willing to allow Him to place us where it will do the best good (in His opinion). This is the end of the race for some of us. Let us run it with eyes on the goal - to be in the presence of the Lord. Let us take our eyes off of the evil around us and put our eyes instead on Him. The world is going to hell around us and great evil lurks on the horizon. Let us be aware of our surroundings but have our hearts focused on Him. The Lord is looking for those whose hearts are right with Him. May all of us be counted in that category. Words to live by. Keith |
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| Lazarusty | Nov 16 2008, 07:18 PM Post #252 |
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I also believe that this is the catalyst to bring about change in the world as we know it. There will most definitely be outrage at what is going to happen and there will be a definitive backlash for those (and their kind) who caused all of this. I wonder that the blacklash will be against Iran who will get the blame for what is about to happen. |
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| jkm1864 | Nov 20 2008, 12:35 AM Post #253 |
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Oh well I guess I'll be homeless or dead in the future considering I live in Louisiana. This is grim very grim. I would atleast hope to have a place to run to when this all goes down but oh well. |
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| domino | Nov 20 2008, 12:07 PM Post #254 |
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Hey, Louisiana has the best politicians money can buy - I know, I lived there for years, and still visit often. Guess we can run but not hide, unless it is to hide in our Lord. Otherwise there is NO safe place. |
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| teamldr7 | Nov 22 2008, 05:42 PM Post #255 |
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There is a similar thread now running under Prophecies - "Something is Coming" that has some of more recent thoughts and answers from the Lord. I encourage you to read them if you are still seeking answers or understanding. Email me with specific questions. Keith Keith |
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| nightbird | Nov 22 2008, 10:14 PM Post #256 |
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I believe that the Lord is looking for each of us to have a deeper sense of personal holiness and right standing with Him for the coming days. I believe He is searching the hearts of all of us, to find those that are “right” with Him, those that He can use to counter the enemy’s plan. Do any of you sense the same thing or “hear” the same thing (or anything similar)? (quote) Yes Keith, I sense the very same thing. The Lord bless you, and keep you. |
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| seeker | Nov 22 2008, 10:45 PM Post #257 |
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I have heard your statement is very true in Louisiana. But you do have a good governor...Him and Palin for our next ticket. |
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| teamldr7 | Nov 26 2008, 11:02 PM Post #258 |
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I just posted this under another thread (Endtime News - FBI Warning NYC terror plot) and have added it here for continuity. Here is what I posted: I read of the terrorist attacks in India earlier today and I instantly and clearly heard that "it has all begun". I knew what that meant. Here is a copy of an email that I just sent to one of you that has some of my thoughts. Hi Pinky, I give this a very high probability that this or something similar will happen. I have been given permission to say this: I believe that imminently, there is going to be an attack in New York and other cities that will make 9-11 look small. I believe in totality, that there will be over 9,000,000 dead (not counting injured) from these terrorists attacks. They will involve the use of everything from bombs to saran gas to other deadly viruses etc. They will involve suicide bombers, but probably not in the beginning. Targeted areas will be large malls, large churches, subways, airports, train stations, sporting events and other areas where people gather in large amounts. They will be distributed in major cities in every state, Canada, England and other countries (not named here). I believe it could start any moment. Years ago (and also recently), I believe the Lord said that what we do for Christmas (not necessarily you or me) doesn't glorify Him and if He had a choice, we would all be down on our knees in prayer and worship and deep repentance - instead of giving presents to each other and singing carols that mean nothing to most people. I also believe He said that if Christmas doesn't happen BECAUSE the stores were all closed (due to the threat of terrorist attacks etc.), than we might be forced to turn to Him, instead of turning to each other. There are probably better ways to say this, but you get the idea. I get the strong impression that what I expect to happen could very well start now - and if that is true, than don't expect Christmas to happen this year. There will be no Christmas as we know it. I also believe that if all of this happens, we could be home for Christmas or close to it (all of this is contingent on the attacks starting very soon - it is hard to know the exact time it will start but I do believe this is the "season"). All errors belong to me. I have only shared a very brief portion of what I am hearing, but you get an idea. Call me if you want more. Keith |
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| domino | Nov 27 2008, 12:07 PM Post #259 |
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Keith, thank you for this word. God Bless. |
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| Wil | Nov 27 2008, 04:20 PM Post #260 |
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http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/node/1493 By Sean Osborne, Associate Director 27 November 2008: The Al Qaeda-inspired terrorist attacks in Mumbai (formerly known as Bombay) India may well be a bellwether for Western counter-terrorist operations, particularly in the United States. Given the 25 November FBI/DHS advisory regarding “a plausible but unsubstantiated report” on “discussions” within Al-Qa’ida communications channels, all things must be considered relevant in order to counter the threat of Islamic jihadist strikes in America. There is no doubt that Al Qa’ida discussions half a world away in Mumbai evolved beyond the “aspirational planning.” I think it necessary at this point to reiterate that one of the primary forms of “aspirational planning” discussions among Al Qa’ida jihadists are found on the forums resident with internet websites. As Randy Taylor reported 18 days ago, an Al Qa’ida “aspirational planning” document was posted on one of their primary forums. Item number 9 in the 15-item “aspirational planning” list of desired targets is the subject of the current FBI/DHS advisory. Based upon analysis of this communication, as well as other more recent communications, the Northeast Intelligence Network most certainly may be in possession of further information, as have you and every other entity which read Mr. Taylor’s report. This kind of information is known within the United States Intelligence Community (US IC) as Indications & Warnings (I&W). Moreover, the list in the communication we collected goes far beyond strikes in the manner of the London or Madrid suicide bombers on the transporation sector in the northeastern United States and Canada. This communication discussed strikes against nine different nuclear power stations located across the entire northeast region and the entire electrical grid. In multiple and overwhelming instances it references strikes against the financial infrastructure of the United States based in New York City. It discusses what can only be mass tactical assaults on seven passenger laden commercial airports. It discussed the financial impact upon the United States during a time of financial crisis as well as the minimal cost to the Islamic jihadists in executing the strikes, and that they will occur at some particular point in time without warning. Let’s shift our focus to Mumbai. How do these multiple attacks in India compare to what I’ve just discussed? They are well-coordinated mass attacks across a single major Indian city. But more importantly I think it should be obvious that the tactical execution of these attacks evidences a significant departure from the previous template of broad-daylight terrorist strikes. These Indian jihadists utilized darkness as tactical cover for the execution of a major, multi-faceted terrorist operation by launching the entire operation at 10 PM local time in Mumbai. This evident change in tactics begs some analytical questions. Was this change in tactics based upon an Al Qa’ida leadership operational directive, or was it left to the local cell leadership to determine? Is this what occurred in the attacks against the World Trade Center in New York City in February 1993 and again in September 2001? It would appear so – the local commander determined the timing of attack, Al Qa’ida’s central command merely approved the concept and targets of the strike, and was generally aware in advance that the strikes would occur. Al Qa’ida central was briefed on the plan of attack, it did not originate them. All of this has brought about a change in my thinking about the execution of terrorist attacks. Al-Qaeda is a decentralized terrorist entity. It was years ago at the urging of Mustafa Setmariam Nasar (Abu Mus'ab al-Suri), the Al Qa’ida master tactician, theoretician and composer of the Al Qa’ida warfighting doctrine, who urged individual jihadists and cells worldwide to execute independent jihad operations on its behalf. Since the Al Qaeda leadership places no constraints on the timing of attacks by its worldwide cells, there exists the distinct possibility that the leader of a given terrorist cell could choose an Islamic or Infidel date of significance or anniversary upon which to execute a strike. In this respect the "setting of dates" by individual jihadi posters on their forums cannot be completely ignored or discounted. Just because this "setting of dates" has not been the case in the past does not mean it won't be the case in the present or in the future. In fact, Islamic jihadists have repeatedly struck Israeli civilian targets on Hebrew dates of significance or holidays on many occasions over many years. The point here is that one additional and very recent jihadi forum post cites a specific date during the first week of January 2009 in which a “settling of accounts” with President George W. Bush will occur. We’ll see what actually transpires relative to these near-term threats, yet I believe it is prudent for all concerned to learn from past events as well as the recent. |
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