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"NOW" or another time...; "NOW" or another time...
Topic Started: Jul 6 2006, 09:33 AM (568 Views)
cwm
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"NOW" or another time...

ALL: 

As most of you know, sometimes our "INITIAL" thoughts
are the best.  In other words, the times when our spirits are
clearest (without human "reasoning" and all its "traditions")
and even without our physical senses (our situations) entering
in, the Holy Spirit can "speak" to our spirits BEST!!!  And,
during those times, we need to remember (I believe) as much
information as possible from when the Lord is speaking to us. 

My FIRST thoughts from two dreams (which were portents of
"violence" and "rapture") were VERY alike in that they had
elements of both SEVERE violence on the horizon and escape.   
So, it's interesting to me about these "North" Korean missiles
being launched on "our" Independence Day.  This VERY
possibly might be the missiles out of the "NORTH" and the
"WARNINGS" that I heard over loudspeakers (combining the
two) at the same time (from a spring, 1998 dream).  ALSO, we
are only days from the discovery of "500" WMD's in Iraq.  Just
after lifting the lid of the slot machine (sort of like a "search") for
the "JACKPOT", I received a "check" with a "500" on it. Then,
I looked back down the mountain we were on and saw VERY
tumultuous dark gray clouds boiling.  This meant VIOLENCE
was on its way and that we may not even have the time to
cash our "JACKPOT" check.   

U.S. INTEL FINDS 500 IRAQ WMDS
http://www.nypost.com/news/nationalnews/u_..._ian_bishop.htm

North Korea Deepens Crisis With July Fourth Missile Tests
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewFlash.asp?Page=...H20060705j.html

Below is a URL of a show done on July 4th (sent by Valerie and
Peg).  The VERY ominous tones from the Steve Quayl show on
the 4th seem to REALLY resonate with the vibes I was getting
in my spring, 1998 dream. 

http://www.stevequayle.com/index1.html
(Click on 2nd hour presentation)

GOD BLESS!!!

Calvin

PS:

I apologize for any repititions but, sometimes, I like to make
a post to "clear the air". So, I went back to a post from Five
Doves (10/23/03) and found this (URL below). Below that
are listed some other dreams with the Statue of Liberty.

Some info from:
"My two dreams and their "possible" relation to 11/9."
http://web.archive.org/web/20031224055602/...lvinm1023-1.htm

SPRING, 2003 DREAM

In April, 2003, I was in Denver at a large meeting of hospice
workers from throughout the US.  I was there to attend some
meetings and acquaint myself with this new field which it seemed
that the Lord was leading me into...at least for a "short" time.  I
was with 2 black sisters in the Lord and as near sisters as I have
(even though I am white).  These girls were very much taken in
hand to raise by my mother when their mother (who served as a
baby-sitter for my 2 brothers' and myself in the 50's) died.  They
have become very successful and one of them owns several
hospices throughout the state of Mississippi.  She (the owner)
had asked me to help be a spiritual counselor. 

While in Denver early one morning (April 11th or 12th, I believe)
before I woke up I had a dream.  It was, I feel, an answer to a
question I posed to the Lord before going to bed.  Heretofore
I had been (for the past 5 years) VERY involved with watching
for the Lord.  My job in the resort industry in SC allowed me the
freedom to do so.  I suppose I "felt" that this new job might
restrict my "watchfulness" somewhat so I asked the Lord before
going to bed, "Lord, do you want me now to NOT be SO watchful
now that it seems you are leading me into this new job?" or
something to that effect.

My dream went something like this:  I was with a young child, I
would say 3-4 years of age.  I was "teaching" him to play a slot
machine.  That didn't exactly "fit" what I "should" be doing but a
"figure" standing behind me gave me comfort and non-condemnation
that it was "all-right" to be doing what I was doing.  As we started
playing, we started winning.  A few coins at first and them more
and more.

I was "letting" the child pull the handle although it seemed he
was having trouble doing so, I did not help him but let him struggle
with it.  Finally he pulled the handle and 3 brownish-gray men came
up.  WE HAD HIT THE JACKPOT!!!  Instead of coins pouring out, I
knew somehow that I should open a tray and get out the prize. 
When I opened the tray, there was a check with "500" written on it. 
I KNEW that we would have to go up the hill (we were playing on the
side of a hill) in order to redeem the jackpot check.

I looked back down the hill and VERY THICK dark gray clouds were
ascending up towards us.  Somehow, I knew that we WOULD NOT
have time to redeem the check before the clouds reached us!!!

The THICK, GRAY CLOUDS, to me, represent JUDGMENT.  The
"500", I believe, represents "something" to do with a "500" that might
be "revealed" at the time of the rapture (the REAL meaning of winning
a "JACKPOT")!!! This also probably represents "JUDGMENT" about
to start because, like Noah, I believe we are taken away from the
judgment to come.

The Person standing behind me would be Jesus in Whom there is
NO condemnation (see verse below).  The FACT that is was unusual
to be teaching a "child" how to play a slot machine, ALSO "fits" this
VERY UNUSUAL type of "ministry" where I am posting (teaching
"children") things that, I believe, God has shown me!!! 

...Romans 8 
...1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in
...Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.  
...2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me
...free from the law of sin and death.

The "3" grayish brown men could be the Desert Camo uniforms which
the US has worn in the Iraq War and the "3" FULL years we have been
at war in Iraq.  The justification of the Iraq War has JUST been found
(according to the news) and that was in the form of "500" WMD's
(weapons of mass destruction that were "found").  This is sort of like
"finding" the "500" check underneath the "lid" of the slot machine!!!! 

(500) WMD's found in Iraq
http://www.progressiveu.org/190000-wmds-found-in-iraq

Desert Camo uniforms (used in Iraq)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Airmen_in_DCUs.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_Combat_Uniform

SPRING, 1998 DREAM

Back in the spring of 1998, I was working on a chapter for
a book on the rapture and the Book of Revelation which I
later sent to family and friends.  The chapter was on Babylon.
The morning after I had spent a day typing what I felt
the Lord had been showing me over about a 2 week period,
He confirmed my revelations about the U.S. being Babylon
with a dream.

Here is what I wrote:

"The morning after I wrote this piece on Babylon, I had a long
dream just before I woke up.  In the dream, my younger
brother, a friend of ours (whom I couldn't identify), and I were
in the vacant lot next to the home where my family used to
live in Mississippi in the 70's and 80's.  There, along the
bayou, we were playing throw and catch with a football.  I
could NEVER throw a football well at all and I remember in
the dream some of my pitiful throws.  They would land halfway
to the target or be way off, etc.  I was in the middle of the 3 of
us and was alternating throwing passes and catching passes
to and from my brother and to my friend.  For some strange
reason, in the dream I remember that I felt that we had also
been hunting.

We had been throwing the football for some time when, all of
a sudden, we looked up and saw an endless double columned
formation of some type of planes which I didn't recognize.  I
remember how shocking and scary it was to see this.  How
would you feel if you looked up into the sky and saw this!!!???
At first these planes, since they had a uniform 'dash' shape,
to me, looked like some highly organized type of flying saucer
formation.  As we ran towards the house to receive news of
what was happening over the T.V, we could hear a loud voice
coming over the loudspeakers of a severe warning of some kind.
It was a VERY frightening scene!!!  As we ran towards the
house, I saw the Statue of Liberty sitting on the side of our
house which we were on.  All of a sudden, I was swept up
and entered the statue from some entrance near her head -
perhaps her torch.  As I entered, I remember a warm, smiling
gentleman greeting me and then I woke up."

My interpretation of the dream goes like this.  We were walking
along the same bayou where I grew up and fished and played as
a child.  This probably represents a carefree life spent enjoying
the freedom this country offers its inhabitants.  This dream means
to me that we are enjoying our last days of this "type" of freedom
in this country.

The fact that I was in the middle with my brother (representing
my family) and a friend (whom I couldn't recognize) means that
I will have a responsibility to tell others about what I have
learned.  Since my family has almost totally rejected (and
even beyond that) what I know about the rapture, I am (thankfully
for fivedoves) now able to share with some of you what the Lord
has allowed me to learn.  I believe that my clumsy throws probably
mean that my attempts would be feeble and not enough, because
we don't have much time left (and this was written in 1998).
To better clarify what I saw in the sky, it was like two columns
of 11's although at the time I described them as dashes since they
didn't have "fins".  It was like an endless column of four "dashes"
coming across the sky but with a space between the two sets of
two dashes so that they looked like "11's" without the fin.

    ll ll
    ll ll
    ll ll
    ll ll
    ll ll
    ll ll
    ll ll

A day or so after having my dream, while wondering what the
ENDLESS series dashes meant, I was watching CNN and
saw some U.S. ships firing Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles
and they were being shown IN SLOW MOTION.  WITHOUT A
DOUBT, THIS MIGHT HAVE BEEN THE EXPLANATION BECAUSE
AN I.C.B.M. LOOKS JUST LIKE A "DASH" IT HAS ALMOST NO
"FINS" OR WINGS.   Because they were definitely coming out of
the North...could they have been "Russian"  I.C.B.M.'s?

     Jeremiah 51:48:
     "Then heaven and earth and all that is in them will
     shout for joy over Babylon, for OUT OF THE NORTH
     destroyers will attack her,"

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Dreams with the Statue of Liberty:

(14 Jan 2006) "Reports of impending attacks on America"
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/jan2006/jim114.htm

(24 Sep 2005) "A. A. Allen vision:  "Running out of oil!""
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/sep2005/calvinm924.htm

Peg Fenn's "Tsunami" dream!!! (posted 6/6/06)
http://all-things-new.net/index.php?showtopic=3760
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