I no longer believe in the Rapture!

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I no longer believe in the Rapture!
Topic Started: Sep 8 2008, 06:51 PM (303 Views)
ASoftWind	Sep 8 2008, 06:51 PM Post #1
Advanced Member Posts: 327 Group: Members Member #4,888 Joined: August 30, 2008	Ha! Gotcha... I figured that would get your attention. LOL But really... I believe in the manifestation of the Sons of God, which most people say, is the rapture. So I guess I do, but I call it differently.
	The Savior of all men, especially believers.1 Tim. 4:10. Jesus' words to those who wanted to call fire down on the heads of those not believing the Gospel,"You do not know what manner of spirit you are of. For the Son of Man did not come to destroy men’s lives, but to save them."(Lk 9:54-56). Blog \| CARM Rebuttal


Pinky1441	Sep 8 2008, 07:51 PM Post #2
Advanced Member Posts: 592 Group: Members Member #4,773 Joined: July 9, 2008	HA HA HA... You got me!
	PINKY ..."In the latter days you will understand it perfectly." Jeremiah 23:20b


jewel4Christ	Sep 9 2008, 07:07 PM Post #3
jewel4Christ Posts: 124 Group: Members Member #4,841 Joined: August 9, 2008	you got me, too..... jewel



Banty Hen	Sep 10 2008, 02:50 PM Post #4
Advanced Member Posts: 243 Group: Members Member #4,786 Joined: July 13, 2008	You really had me going there, for a minute! I was getting out my howitzer and starting to load it.



ASoftWind	Sep 10 2008, 03:30 PM Post #5
Advanced Member Posts: 327 Group: Members Member #4,888 Joined: August 30, 2008	heh...Glad I dodged that one BH... lol
	The Savior of all men, especially believers.1 Tim. 4:10. Jesus' words to those who wanted to call fire down on the heads of those not believing the Gospel,"You do not know what manner of spirit you are of. For the Son of Man did not come to destroy men’s lives, but to save them."(Lk 9:54-56). Blog \| CARM Rebuttal


Deleted User	Sep 13 2008, 12:42 AM Post #6
Deleted User	I agree that the term rapture is not really correct. I prefer the biblical term "harpazo", which is not at all what the traditions of men have taught us. I believe that when the Sons of God are manifested here ON EARTH that their bodies will be changed from mortal to immortal, just as Jesus was. I believe they will be able to be moved from one place to another without the constraints of space or time, just as Phillip was "harpazoed" from the road with the Ethiopian, and instantly was elsewhere. Just as Jesus could appear suddenly inside a locked room. I do not think anyone will be suddenly whisked up into the air as the Left Behind movies depict, nor will anyone be sitting on a cloud for the next seven years while the earth below is in tribulation. I do not see any of this as being scriptural, though I was raised with these beliefs and did not think any other view was possible until I began to seek the Lord with my whole heart, and asked for the Holy Spirit to lead me into all truth. The harpazo is not the end, it is only the beginning.
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autoimmune	Sep 13 2008, 01:53 AM Post #7
Advanced Member Posts: 179 Group: Members Member #4,846 Joined: August 9, 2008	I agree with you, Standardbearer. I use the term "translation" instead. Mary Ellen



Wil	Sep 13 2008, 12:04 PM Post #8
Administrator Posts: 9,511 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: September 21, 2005	Standard I was told quite clearly by the Lord after also seeking for myself that the rapture in the air is correct. So, I guess time will tell who (if either) was hearing correctly



Deleted User	Sep 13 2008, 04:48 PM Post #9
Deleted User	Do a study on what "in the air" means. Moses was "in the air" when he went up Mt. Sinai.
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kgreen20	Sep 13 2008, 05:07 PM Post #10
Advanced Member Posts: 1,648 Group: Advanced Members Member #96 Joined: January 7, 2006	And we will be in the air, literally, to meet Jesus. Not on a mountaintop, but in the clouds. Then He will take us Home to Heaven.



ASoftWind	Sep 13 2008, 05:53 PM Post #11
Advanced Member Posts: 327 Group: Members Member #4,888 Joined: August 30, 2008	I believe the 'rapture' is the translation, which is the same as the 'manifestation of the Sons of God'-- And that is completely Scriptural (as both of these words appear in the Bible). I have had several prophetic dreams, but one in particular was given me several years ago, that totally confirmed the Truths that the Holy Spirit showed me years later. The thing is, I had this dream when I still believed the traditional understanding about the rapture. While I was in that understanding, the meaning didn't register. Only later, two years later, did it FINALLY click, and click perfectly as to what the Lord was then teaching me. At any rate, I'll share the particular dream, but I'll leave it to the each person's discernment to understand the meaning. ---- I dreamed I saw a video tape movie jacket (like the Disney movies are sold in). It took up my complete field of vision. On the cover was a beautiful white dove with wings spread as if in flight. The edge of its wings were a sparkling silver, and it had an olive branch in its mouth. Above it in a rainbow of colors was the title of the "movie"--- *THE BRIDE AS JONAH* -end-
	The Savior of all men, especially believers.1 Tim. 4:10. Jesus' words to those who wanted to call fire down on the heads of those not believing the Gospel,"You do not know what manner of spirit you are of. For the Son of Man did not come to destroy men’s lives, but to save them."(Lk 9:54-56). Blog \| CARM Rebuttal


GoingUp!	Sep 15 2008, 11:40 AM Post #12
Advanced Member Posts: 149 Group: Members Member #2,400 Joined: December 16, 2007	1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the Dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are ALIVE and remain shall be CAUGHT UP TOGETHER with them in the CLOUDS, to MEET the Lord in the AIR: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 2 Peter 3:3-7 Knowing this first, that there SHALL COME in the LAST DAYS SCOFFERS, WALKING AFTER their OWN LUSTS, And SAYING, WHERE is the PROMISE OF HIS COMING? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. For this THEY ARE WILLINGLY IGNORANT of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, RESERVED UNTO FIRE against the DAY of JUDGEMENT and PERDITION of UNGODLY MEN.
	1 John 4:2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: KNOW YOUR ENEMY! IF THEY CAN'T CONFESS: "I CONFESS JESUS CHRIST IS COME IN THE FLESH" YOU "KNOW" THEY ARE THE ENEMY


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